Fist Of Unicorn Reg 0 Soulblade vs Raremovies vs Vengeance

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 28 Nov 2006, 20:38

Soulblade

Rarekungfumovies

Vengeance

Soulblade

Rarekungfumovies

Vengeance

Soulblade

Rarekungfumovies

Vengeance

Soulblade

Rarekungfumovies

Vengeance

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 Nov 2006, 20:49

Ugh, they all look rather crap IMO. The Vengenace one looks like a 10th Generation VHS.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 28 Nov 2006, 20:52

Why are your SoulBlade caps so weird ?
They're in 16/9 aspect ratio, but the movie isn't...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Nov 2006, 21:01

grim_tales wrote:The Vengenace one looks like a 10th Generation VHS.

10th Generation VHS would mean 10 times better than VHS

But I get your point and agree.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 28 Nov 2006, 21:06

tom2681 wrote:Why are your SoulBlade caps so weird ?
They're in 16/9 aspect ratio, but the movie isn't...

Remember the Vipco Shogun Assassin DVD where it was a 2.35:1 non-anamorphic image squished into anamorphic. On a 16:9 TV, it comes across as a non-anamorphic image but on a 4:3 TV it'll be dead squashed, with everyone looking very squashed, like a 4:3 image on a 16:9 TV

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 28 Nov 2006, 21:08

Does the Raremovies have the pre-credit scene with the childhood Unicorn and his parents getting killed?

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 28 Nov 2006, 21:29

Sorry about the odd caps,don't know how that's happened,must be the dvd

anyway all 3 have different runtimes, the soulblade is around 82 minutes,the rarekungfumovies 86 minutes and the vengeance around 90 minutes. vengeance & rarekungfumovies are english dubbed,the soulblade is mandarin.yes,the rarekungfumovies has the pre-credits sequence.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 28 Nov 2006, 21:47

Vengeance is probably NTSC-PAL, accounting for the running time.

I think there's a restored German version coming out soon

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 28 Nov 2006, 22:17

grim_tales wrote:Ugh, they all look rather crap IMO. The Vengenace one looks like a 10th Generation VHS.

lmfao - totally classic grim.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 28 Nov 2006, 22:47

bradavon wrote: 10th Generation VHS would mean 10 times better than VHS But I get your point and agree.

No, it would mean ten times away from the original source.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 28 Nov 2006, 22:51

The Mandarin versions in circulation are missing the opening 8 mins that can be found in the English dubbed version hence the large discrepancy in run time.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:01

Markgway wrote: No, it would mean ten times away from the original source.

You sure? Because say a 5th Generation Ipod is said to be the fifth revision up from the original (and obviously better)... wouldn't that mean that a 10th generation VHS is similarly 10 models up from the original?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:11

Bisc you're right, Mark is not. It's standard technology terminology. Why do you think it's called 3G? It's third generation telephony.

p.s - 10 times away from the original source is exactly the same as I said, is it not? 10 times higher than the original first generation source.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:18

A tenth generation VHS tape is a VHS tape that's been copied onto another VHS tape, and onto another VHS tape, and so on... 9 times.

When Grim said VHS he meant VHS tape, not VHS format.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:26

Ow you're right, we're both right. Brad wanders off in shame

p.s - A 10th generation copy probably wouldn't look that much worse than the original

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:45

Yes Brad you should walk away in shame :twisted: Saying Mark is wrong when you are as usual so misinformed

And please use the old noodle a bit. A 10th generation VHS copy will more often than not look 10 times worse than first-gen tape. If you've ever seen a tape dupe of the Star Wars Holiday Special, that should give you some idea.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 29 Nov 2006, 00:17

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 29 Nov 2006, 00:20

EvaUnit02 wrote:You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I'm very tired but I could have sworn your post was something completely different ten minutes ago

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 29 Nov 2006, 00:29

Aye, it was. Brad is very sensitive and throws tantrums over the slightest bit of direct criticism.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 29 Nov 2006, 02:51

Thanks to Tom for explaining to Brad... I really couldn't be bothered myself this time.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 29 Nov 2006, 09:35

tom2681 wrote:A tenth generation VHS tape is a VHS tape that's been copied onto another VHS tape, and onto another VHS tape, and so on... 9 times.

When Grim said VHS he meant VHS tape, not VHS format.

You're right Tom, thats what I meant

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 04 Dec 2006, 12:47

I've contacted the head of Soulblade about the problem. Will let you know soon if he replies.

The Soulblade is the clear winner. None of the other ones have advantages except for the incorrect ratio flagging, differing print damage, lack of English dub and burnt-in subtitles...

Slight restoration:

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 04 Dec 2006, 13:15

And the Soulblade is cut, innit? Missing the pre-credit's footage.

BTW, on the German boot, how did they handle the footage of Unicorn training with an instructor. On the Vengeance, footage of Bruce Lee is randomly stuck on over the original picture, along with random shots of Unicorn, one of which has Chinese/English subs. Very bizarre!

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 04 Dec 2006, 18:14

Maybe the English export international version exclusively included the footage.

Linn · Post by **Linn** » 10 Dec 2006, 07:26

Crash Cinema had a version of this coming out that had the complete Bruce footage in it. The filmmakers took footage of Bruce training Chan and people in the film, for the action sequences and then put it in the film as if Bruce was training them as a character in the film. The movie was pulled early on and the footage cut down to largely jump cuts which is what we see now.

Bullets 'n' Babes

Fist Of Unicorn Reg 0 Soulblade vs Raremovies vs Vengeance

Fist Of Unicorn Reg 0 Soulblade vs Raremovies vs Vengeance

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