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Democrats gain control in mid term elections

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Just heard on the news that the Democrats in the US have won an important victory in the mid-term elections. So far they have won 28 (?) seats (they needed 15 AFAIK to gain) - there are 2 states left to be counted.

Ah I see, so they have won control of the House of Representatives but not the Senate.
Democrats seize control of House
Guests cheer as early election results are announced at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee election night party in Washington
The Democrats are celebrating gains in the House and Senate
The Democratic Party has won control of the House of Representatives in the US mid-term elections.

The White House conceded the Democrats had picked up the 15 net seats needed to wrest power from the Republicans for the first time in 12 years.

The Democrats are also projected to have won four of six target Senate seats - but overall control of the upper house remains too close to call.

Polls have now closed across the US, with high turnout reported.

Correspondents say the Democrat gains reflect voter discontent with the war in Iraq and Republican President George W Bush.


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The BBC's Jamie Coomarasamy in Washington says the results have changed the political landscape in the US, and the last two years of the Bush presidency will be very different from what has gone before.

With projected results still coming through, the Democrats had gained 16 House seats from the Republicans - enough to win control providing they hold their existing seats.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi said the American people had "voted for Democrats to take our country in a new direction - and that is exactly what we intend to do".


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Ms Pelosi - who stands to become the first female House speaker - said the Democrats would "restore integrity and honesty" to Washington and lead the "most ethical Congress in history".

Presidential spokesman Tony Snow said the White House had admitted defeat in the House.

"We believe Democrats will have control of the House, and look forward to working with Democratic leaders on the issues that remain foremost on the agenda, including winning the war in Iraq and the broader war on terror and keeping the economy on a growth path," he said.

Mr Bush has scheduled a news conference for later on Wednesday.

The speech will provide the first clue as to whether Mr Bush intends to compromise with his newly powerful opponents or fight them, the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says.

Analysts say control of the House will allow Democrats to choose to launch inquiries into the handling of Iraq, and could lead to significant changes on domestic issues like taxation and health care.

Senate gains

Democratic hopes have been bolstered by wins bringing them closer to their target of six net Senate seats. However, Montana and Virginia remain too close to call.

The Senate race in Virginia, where Democrat Jim Webb is challenging incumbent George Allen, is likely to go to a full recount, correspondents say


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It's been kind of tough out there
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The race remained neck-and-neck after Bob Corker held on to the Republicans' Senate seat in Tennessee, despite a strong challenge from Harold Ford Jr.

In other results:

* In Pennsylvania, Democrat Bob Casey Jr beat one of his party's biggest Republican targets this year, arch-conservative incumbent Rick Santorum

* In Ohio, where the Republican Party has been hit by scandal, Democrat Sherrod Brown won a decisive victory over incumbent Republican Mike DeWine

* The Senate seat in Rhode Island went to Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse after a closely-fought battle with incumbent Republican Lincoln Chafee

* In New Jersey, Democrat incumbent Senator Bob Menendez succeeded in holding off a strong challenge from the Republicans' Thomas Kean. The race had been seen as the Republicans' best chance of picking up a seat from their rivals

* The Senate seat in Connecticut has gone to Joe Lieberman, who stood as an independent after losing the Democratic primary to Ned Lamont amid strong anti-war feeling. He has said he will align himself with the Democrats

* Democrat Keith Ellison was elected as the nation's first Muslim member of Congress, taking a House seat in Minnesota

* Republicans lost the Florida district of Mark Foley, who resigned after the disclosure that he sent sexually explicit messages to teenage male congressional assistants.

"It's been kind of tough out there," said Republican House speaker Dennis Hastert, who won a 11th two-year term.

While Mr Hastert won his district, he will lose his job as speaker after the Republicans lost control of the House of Representatives.


SENATE RACE
DEMOCRAT GAINS:
McCaskill takes Missouri
Casey gains Pennsylvania
Brown gains Ohio
Whitehouse gains Rhode Island
RESULTS TO COME:
Montana
Virginia

Voters are also choosing governors in 36 states.

Democrat Deval Patrick has taken the governorship in Massachusetts, becoming the first black governor of the state and only the second elected black governor of any state.

In some good news for the Republicans, Arnold Schwarzenegger has held on to his gubernatorial seat in California for a second term.

And in one of a series of state referendums, voters in South Dakota have overturned a near-total ban on abortions passed by the state legislature earlier this year.

Iraq 'important'

Democratic Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - who cast her vote alongside former President Bill Clinton - has strolled to re-election in New York, as expected. Her win opens the way for a potential presidential run in 2008.

In her acceptance speech, she said she was ready to "roll up my sleeves and get to work" in creating a "new beginning" for the country.

A national exit poll for the Associated Press indicated that about two-thirds of people felt Iraq was very important to their vote.


BALANCE OF CONGRESS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:
435 seats - all being contested
Republicans hold 229 seats; Democrats 201; one seat independent; four vacant seats
Democrats need to win net 15 seats to win control of House
SENATE:
100 seats - 33 being contested
Republicans hold 55 seats; Democrats 44; one independent
Democrats need to win net six seats to win control of Senate

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Voting machine problems
Yet even more voters - about 80% - said the economy, government corruption and scandal were very important to their votes, the survey of 8,344 voters said.

Technical hitches delayed voting in dozens of precincts in Indiana and Ohio.

Officials extended polling hours in six states because of problems with electronic voting machines.

The new voting technology was brought in to replace older systems, such as the punch-card machines which were at the centre of the Florida dispute during the 2000 presidential election.

In Virginia, election officials told ABC News the FBI was investigating claims of voter intimidation.
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Does that mean anything different for us?
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Dunno, it means it doesnt look good for Bush ;)

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Homer is running for Sanitation Comissioner

Lenny: So Homer, if we vote for you, what are you gonna do different?
Homer: What am I, the answer man? Just vote for me!

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Well, it at least means Bush wont have it as easy as he has had it for the last 6 years, where there was hardly any resistence.
Hell, witha democratic senate, the guy migght even not have been president alltogether (remember that there were calls for the senate to investigate the 2000 election, where Gore actually WON, but none of the republican senate-members wanted to sign an approval for the investigation?

So far for democracy.

I hope the democrates get both the house and the senate, so they can possibly have some big investigations into Bush and Iraq and all the other scandals, and possibly impeach the idiot.
However, I already heard there are some problems again with voting machines and re-counts and shit like that, plus republicans have told/threatend democrats not to vote (lying to them that they are already registred to vote in another state, and if they would vote in the state they're in, they would be prosecuted... BS like that), so the republicans will probably cheat their way to victory again.

Also always fun to see the hillbillies care more about taxes then innocent lives being lost.
People like Mark say the victims of 9/11 were innocent, and most of them being New Yorkers (mostly democratic) that is true, but in the case of mid-america, all those republican voters who vote republican purely for their tax-breaks, not giving a shit about what the USA is doing overseas, ARE indirectly responsible for many deaths. They dont care, so why should Al Qaida care about those people?
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Just because they voted for Bush, it didn't mean they agreed with Iraq, some voted for different reasons I'm sure.
Why bring up 9/11 in this thread? :)
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grim_tales wrote:Just because they voted for Bush, it didn't mean they agreed with Iraq, some voted for different reasons I'm sure.
Why bring up 9/11 in this thread? :)
I mean, they NOW still vote republican/bush, even after having witnessed the Iraq crap and all the other scandals and stuff (wiretaps, illegal prisoners, etc etc)
They know the republicans are responsible, but they are affraid that the democrats might raise taxes, so they still vote republican. To them taxes are more important then all those scandals and deaths.
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Do you remember that Sideshow Bob episode of the Simpsons where he rigs an election? :D

"Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic" :D

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Is anyone else annoyed at the thinking in the media why non-Americans would give a shit (other than the basic outcome)?

It was all over the news this morning yet the British equivalent is barely mentioned. I don't even bother for non-General Elections, does anyone?
thelostdragon wrote:Does that mean anything different for us?
Yes as Bush has less power.
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Well, what does it mean for us then?
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He'll have less say which as we know often what America says, we feel.
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Oh, I see. I thought a few lifes out there would be spared. Well, you can't have everything can you? :D
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bradavon wrote:He'll have less say which as we know often what America says, we feel.
The high petrol prices come to mind, thanks a fucking lot War on Terror.
thelostdragon wrote:Oh, I see. I thought a few lifes out there would be spared. Well, you can't have everything can you? :D
It'll prolly make fuck all difference to the current global affairs. I honestly don't see the yankie doodles leaving Iraq any time soon. Might make a difference to the American people though i.e. getting some of their civil liberties back - which we people outside the US wouldn't give a shit about. Boohoo, you get escorted far away by secret service/cops if you wear an anti-Bush t-shirt at a Bush rally, cry me a fucking river. (They have "designated demonstration zones" which are far away from the event/rally/whatever where people are dragged away to if they protest against whatever).
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EvaUnit02 wrote:
bradavon wrote:He'll have less say which as we know often what America says, we feel.
The high petrol prices come to mind, thanks a fucking lot War on Terror.
thelostdragon wrote:Oh, I see. I thought a few lifes out there would be spared. Well, you can't have everything can you? :D
It'll prolly make fuck all difference to the current global affairs. I honestly don't see the yankie doodles leaving Iraq any time soon. Might make a difference to the American people though i.e. getting some of their civil liberties back - which we people outside the US wouldn't give a shit about. Boohoo, you get escorted far away by secret service/cops if you wear an anti-Bush t-shirt at a Bush rally, cry me a fucking river. (They have "designated demonstration zones" which are far away from the event/rally/whatever where people are dragged away to if they protest against whatever).
So what would happen if you'd go to those 'designated demonstration zones' and demonstrate against those? Where would they drag you to then?

For the rest of the world it will mean more diplomocy in the conflicts with Iran and North Korea etc. For the American troops it can mean more protection (armour) and more care for the troops coming home...

It just means Bush cant be gung-ho anymore, like he has been the last bunch of years. He's made many dumb-ass remark, many pissing of the rest of the word. Now the senate and the house can smack him on the fingers when he does that...
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Yi-Long wrote:So what would happen if you'd go to those 'designated demonstration zones' and demonstrate against those? Where would they drag you to then?
Nothing. Those zones are miles away from the the parade/rally/whatever that they make zilch impact. That's the entire purpose of the zones, so that no one will hear their anti-whatever messages.