HKL is now 7 years old!!!!!!!!

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 16 Oct 2006, 23:08

I only got into them about 3 years ago and damn it, they have been awesome.

http://www.hongkonglegends.co.uk/

Shame i may start becoming a Dragon Dynasty fanboy since Bey Logan has left.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Oct 2006, 23:23

and damn it, they have been awesome.

Yeah, awesome.

Cropping, dubtitles, noise reduction, pinkification, aspect ratio distortion...

Happy f*cking birthday HKL.
Please sell all your catalogue to Tartan and die.

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 16 Oct 2006, 23:27

How dare you?!!! Tartan DVDs suck compared to HKL!!! Tartan DVDs are so lacking in decent extras i find it upsetting when good films come out on their label instead of HKL or Permier Asia (hard Boiled, the vengence trilogy). Even if the film sucks the extras and their awesome picture quality makes up for it ....usually. I am such an extras geek.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 16 Oct 2006, 23:34

I'm in the middle. HKL arent perfect, but they've been pretty good nontheless. Especially considering the very weak competition ofcourse.
But they've done good with alot of their releases. Could have been better, yeah, but all their releases were good PAL transfers, and most had interesting extra's and pretty good AV quality (although a tendency of not including original mono, and cropping)

Overall I'm happy with HKL with what they've done. Dont forget, they've been doing pretty good ever since the DVD era pretty much started, restoring old movies and actively pursuing and producing extra's for (let's face it) a small market...

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 17 Oct 2006, 00:29

Bleeper wrote:I am such an extras geek.

Ah. That explains it then.

Don't care at all about extras myself.

Bleeper wrote:How dare you?!!!

Kid, I'm a mod. I can afford to dare.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 11:30

HKL are very important to me for suppling me with great films just as I became a HK film fan but to be fair, once you get past the extras, a lot of their releases are lacking where it counts - the presentation of the film. I feel a bit of a fool for buying so many releases of theirs and now having to shell out on the Joy Sales titles for things like the OAR, the original audio track, the uncut version, etc - although I thank my lucky stars I didn't go through a stage of picking up bootlegs, VHS tapes. VCDs. Megastars DVDs and so...

Bleeper is entitled to his opinion but he does seem a little too fanboyish of HKL and Bey Logan without recognising their very serious flaws. In particular, I hate HKL with my dying breath for compromising the likely only DVD of Legend Of A Fighter

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 17 Oct 2006, 11:41

Yeah, but that's also partly your own fault. You bought DVDs that were faulty, but of you had checked online reviews and message boards you would have known which HKL releases to avoid, thus you wouldnt have wasted money on it...

At least that's how I pick and choose which DVD's to buy...

So I've only bought 'good' discs of HKL, thus my perception of them will be a bit more positive then yours...

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 11:49

That's true but the online reviews generally ignored things like that - most of them were so praiseworthy it's silly. Also, I was ignorant of the value of the original audio track - until recently, a 5.1 remix was seen on DVD reviews as a good thing. What can I say, I was young and stupid. But the extras do mean my money wasn't wasted as the interviews and commentaries - well, those by Bey Logan - are very useful and interesting. But I no longer care about extras - life's too short,

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 17 Oct 2006, 12:07

I agree with you btw... as in that HKL fucked up on numerous occasions, and online reviews didnt always mention those shortcomings. Which is why forums are so important.

Personally, I've never really cared about 5.1 or whatever. They sound crap in my house as I have my sound coming through my stereo-TV ...
So I always kinda preferred mono/stereo/dolby 2.0 sound to any remixes...

But in general i just try to avoid bad releases and companies. I used to hate Eastern Heroes cause in the VHS era I had bought some of their (shitty, bootleg-quality) tapes and felt I was ripped off.
In this new era, I just avoid Eastern Heroes alltogether...
I still hate them ofcourse, but I'm not hating them 24/7, simply cause they're not even on my mind anymore.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 12:10

I don't like 5.1 remixes either. Never have, never will.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 16:27

Another debit about HKL. Their attitude to Chen Lung is lousy. He moderates their stupid excuse for a forum and they still refuse to reply to his e-mails or take up his suggestions

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Oct 2006, 17:36

Frankly neither HKL or Tartan suck, both just have some dodgy releases but both also have a wealth of great releases.

It's basically nitpicking to go as far to say either should die.

Name me a better company in either of the two markets Tartan or HKL sell to? (Criterion aside). Nope you can't didn't think so, enough said.

The reality is if HKL or Tartan were to go we could very, very easily have much worse!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Oct 2006, 20:01

Look, we all know Tai Seng is the best, so why argue?? 8)

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 20:24

Markgway wrote:Look, we all know Tai Seng is the best, so why argue?? 8)

Funniest post ever!

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 17 Oct 2006, 22:01

The irony being that Tai Seng no longer suck any more.

See their releases of Running Out of Time, The Quiet Family and One Nite in Mongkok for good examples.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Oct 2006, 22:06

THE HKL EXTRAS ARE GOOD SOMETIMES, BUT ENDLESS INTERVIEWS SUCK BAD! VERY BAD!!!!!

Extras rock anyway, I listen to every commentary I can (maybe 300+ this year so far) and they are a lot of the time better than the film or TV show they are for, best extra ever (well apart from a very good documentary).

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Oct 2006, 22:52

I used to watch every extra on a DVD but now I only bother with deleted scenes, good documentaries and vintage trailers. Commentaries depend on who's doing them and whether I can get through the first five minutes.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Oct 2006, 23:04

Tai Seng have been putting out crap until recently.

Maybe they've finally changed their ways.

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 17 Oct 2006, 23:57

Ivan Drago wrote:
Bleeper is entitled to his opinion but he does seem a little too fanboyish of HKL and Bey Logan without recognising their very serious flaws. In particular, I hate HKL with my dying breath for compromising the likely only DVD of Legend Of A Fighter

I admit it i am a HKL and Bey Logan fanboy, he made Jet Li movies watchable.... I still feel guilty for liking the Once Upon a Time in China trilogy.

Also the things that interest other people do not always interest me such as original score. I personally like anything that suits the film well and i always watch my films dubbed. I hate it when people start going all elitist about watching films as "they were meant to be watched". Yet when my cantonese friends watch something like Ricky Oh all they can do is comment on how shit a certain actors cantonese is.

Yeah, but that's also partly your own fault. You bought DVDs that were faulty, but of you had checked online reviews and message boards you would have known which HKL releases to avoid, thus you wouldnt have wasted money on it...

Purple Storm sucked it got good reviews, Miracles sucked and it got good reviews, Project A part 2 was woeful and that good good reviews, 2000 AD is so overrated. However with HKL i can be assured if the film sucks the extras usually make you realise your purchase was not in compleate vain. Tat's why i am still bitter about black sheep, man that film was appaling. Sometimes extras really do make you happy for your DVD purchase Naked Weapon (so bad it was good) and the project A part 1 platinum extras are truly divine.

Extras rock anyway, I listen to every commentary I can (maybe 300+ this .

Same, although i am now to busy to bother with commenteries now.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Oct 2006, 00:02

Yi-Long wrote:Yeah, but that's also partly your own fault. You bought DVDs that were faulty

That depends how high your faulty bar of quality is and whether you'd like the film enough to buy a non-perfect version, a shoddy version (back then usually the HK DVD) or not at all.

Faulty really is a stupid word to use, they all play/played didn't/don't they?

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 18 Oct 2006, 09:19

Purple Storm sucked?
Miracles sucked?
Once Upon A Time In China a guilty pleasure?

Bleeper, you are one sad strange little man.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 18 Oct 2006, 11:07

Ivan Drago wrote:Purple Storm sucked?
Miracles sucked?
Once Upon A Time In China a guilty pleasure?

Bleeper, you are one sad strange little man.

Didnt even reply to these statements as they show he is a hopeless case.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 18 Oct 2006, 11:14

Ok, so:

-He likes Bey Logan.
-He watches all his movies dubbed.
-He thinks Miracles sucked.
-He doesn't care about original soundtracks/scores.

Can I kill him already ?
He's practically asking for it.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 18 Oct 2006, 11:47

ME FIRST! He dared to insult Purple Storm!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:07

Is Bleeper a troll?

I can't believe anyone made those statements seriously?