The "2046 2-Disc French edition thread"

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 01:24

Say bonjour to this pretty thing:

2.35:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
Original Language DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround 8)
French DD5.1 Surround
French subtitles

Making of (37min)
8 New Scenes including an alternate ending (20min)
Discussions with Wong Kar Wai, Tony Leung and Zhang Ziyi (17mins)
Cannes Legends: Documentary on the presentation of the film at the festival (27min)
Wong Kar Wai: Portrait in 20'46 - Comments on film by three film critics: Michel Ciment (Positif), Jean-Michel Frodon (Cahiers du cinéma) and Pascal Merigeau (Le Nouvel Observateur) with extracts of Our wild Years, In the Mood for Love and 2046
2046: Design - Stages of the design and the realisation of the futuristic city in synthesized images (5 min)
Trailers: Promo-reels, Trailers, Teasers and Final Trailer recall the evolution of the film from 2002 to 2004 (16 min)
Music: Presentation by Wong Kar Wai, list of the pieces, biographies of the musicians, and new video clip on l’air de Casta Diva, by Wong Kar Wai (8 min)
Gallery of Poster Art: From Hong Kong, Japan and France
Gallery of Photographs: Scenes from the film (via a different point of view) along with the discovery of completely new scenes
In front of and behind the camera: Artistic card, Chart, biofilmographies
Numerology: the direction of all the numbers and dates evoked in film
Ocean Film Catalogue and Asian film trailers
DVD-ROM: Press Kit, Screensaver, Internet Links
Easter Egg

But no english subs. Désolé folks.

Source: DVDTimes.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:04

Is that a tin casing!? If so, then it looks damn cool

like the simple but very stylish design. I've got the HK version though (havent watched it yet, might watch it today) so not sure if I'll be buying an upgrade anytime soon...
God I wish I was french: you get all the good discs, as well as a nice football-league plus good weather

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:15

you get all the good discs

You don't know the half of it, mate.

We have a new DVD label called Asian Star. They're going to release more than 50 (yes I said 50 !) asian movies on DVD every year.

Stuff like My Sassy Girl, Legend of Zu, Tube, Johnnie To movies, Ringo Lam movies, the entire Takashi Miike filmography.

There will be lots of 2-Disc editions with audio commentaries, interviews, making-ofs...

Time to learn some french, guys. :twisted:

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:26

My Sassy Girl OMG! This along with Il Mare has long since needed a release outside of Asia.

Well done "Asian Star".

Don't you guys get forced subs also? It's good not to be French

p.s - I'd much rather learn Spanish thank you

, which I shall be some time this year.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:54

I'd much rather learn Spanish thank you

Como usted desea.
Adiós, muchacho.

Beer · Post by **Beer** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:42

Tom2681 wrote:
Time to learn some french, guys. :twisted:

Hehehe, luckily I DO understand French (in addition to Italian and English)!

BTW, any new releases recently from Christophe Gans on his HK Video label? I am STILL waiting for Tsui Hark's "The blade", which he had promised years ago...

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:47

luckily I DO understand French

This week-end I'll create a big post about french DVDs. :twisted:
HK Vidéo, CTV, Asian Star, Asian Premium, TF1, Wild Side Vidéo, etc...

I'll make a list of all major releases and I'll compare them to existing HKL, Tartan, Mei Ah and FOX dvds.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 Mar 2005, 14:30

Tom2681 wrote:
I'd much rather learn Spanish thank you
Como usted desea.
Adiós, muchacho.

Qué? No entiendo, mi amigo

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 15:42

Ay Caramba !

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 Mar 2005, 16:01

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Mar 2005, 17:56

Tom2681 wrote:Adiós, muchacho.

Say what you will but Spanish is more wildly spoken and more countries speak it (I think).

Beer wrote:Hehehe, luckily I DO understand French (in addition to Italian and English)!

BTW, any new releases recently from Christophe Gans on his HK Video label? I am STILL waiting for Tsui Hark's "The blade", which he had promised years ago...

You're Italian right Beer?

I've not heard a sausage.

Tom2681 wrote:I'll make a list of all major releases and I'll compare them to existing HKL, Tartan, Mei Ah and FOX dvds.

Nice one.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2005, 18:06

I am STILL waiting for Tsui Hark's "The blade"

So am I.
They'll meet Tsui Hark to record an interview as soon as he's available.
Then it's only a question of time.

Christmas 2005, maybe ?

Beer · Post by **Beer** » 11 Mar 2005, 08:35

bradavon wrote: You're Italian right Beer?

Yes, from Torino (Juventus)!

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 11 Mar 2005, 12:56

Bey Logan's scene was cut out from the film and it wasn't there on the second disc of the HK DVD. Let me know if it is on the French disc and some screengrabs of his scene would be nice.

That French label sounds great! I hope a German label will make a deal with them to import their stuff. The only thing they'd have to do is to create new subs and probably dubs, because the average German guy is spoiled with great professional dubs that he won't be willing to watch a subtitled film, no matter how good it is.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2005, 21:32

Tom,

Requesting permission to put that news onto DVDAnswers.com. Will credit you 100% of course. If you want to be credited, do I mention "Tom from BulletsnBabes" or your proper name?

Thanks.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Mar 2005, 21:34

Requesting permission to put that news onto DVDAnswers.com

you're talking about the 2046 news ?
It doesn't come from me, it comes from DVDTimes.

I said it at the bottom of my first post.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Mar 2005, 21:36

Or are you talking about the "Asian Star" news ?

Anyway, do whatever you want.
"Tom from BulletsnBabes" is fine.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2005, 21:52

Tom2681 wrote:
Requesting permission to put that news onto DVDAnswers.com
you're talking about the 2046 news ?
It doesn't come from me, it comes from DVDTimes.

I said it at the bottom of my first post.

I'm truly sorry Tom

You got me so excited I forgot to read the bottom bit. I'll ask DVD Times but thank you for alerting me of this.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Mar 2005, 22:00

No problem.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Mar 2005, 18:23

You'll be lucky if they let you Bisc. You can all but try though.

thelostdragon wrote:Bey Logan's scene was cut out from the film and it wasn't there on the second disc of the HK DVD. Let me know if it is on the French disc and some screengrabs of his scene would be nice.

Crikey I didn't know Bey was in this. Who did he play?

thelostdragon wrote:because the average German guy is spoiled with great professional dubs that he won't be willing to watch a subtitled film, no matter how good it is.

Personally I'd call this laziness not being spoilt but that's just me.

Unrealnils · Post by **Unrealnils** » 16 Mar 2005, 14:21

Its not that good anyway

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 14 Jun 2005, 00:12

I've read a very detailed and very precise review of the french edition:

Picture:
The picture is definately sharper than the R3 Mei Ah disc.
The blacks are deeper, the colours are more vibrant and the bitrate is very high.
I've also read that the R2 FR DVD had been supervised by two technicians who had worked on the movie itself ( 8) ).

Sound:
TF1 (Océan) asked one of the guys who did the original mix for the theatrical version of the movie to remix it especially for the french dvd (I need a new smiley......... :woot: Yep, that's a good one !

).
Apparently the DTS remix is more subtle than the R3 Mei Ah. It also has a better spatialization, although the subwoofer effects have been reduced).

So:
-If you can understand Cantonese + Japanese + Mandarin, the french edition appears to be the best (AV-wise).
-If you can read french (or dutch, because the dutch disc appears to be a port from the french disc) this R2FR edition is also the best.

TBH I seriously doubt that any other edition will come close. 8)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 Jun 2005, 00:23

The R2 Mei Ah doesn't have DTS in case you thought it did. I wonder how this compares with the UK Tartan? (which isn't an NTSC to PAL transfer).

I was going to buy the UK Tartan but for DTS alone which I hear isn't much different at all to the DD5.1 I decided against it. The HK DVD has longer extras, not a patch on the French DVD of course.

It's madness this didn't have English subs or Tartan didn't pay for the rights to release this. I'm surprised they didn't, like they did before. I can see an SE coming.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 14 Jun 2005, 12:19

Tom, if you get the French release yourself or can find some caps I'll get some R2J ones.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 14 Jun 2005, 13:38

I'll buy it soon (2 weeks max).

I must admit that I was waiting for a screencap comparison before buying it, but it seems that I'll be the one doing the comparison.

EDIT: Ordered it.

I'll post some caps in a few days.