The Bullets Discussion Thread!

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 01 Feb 2005, 12:01

I'm assuming that Toge decided he did not have either the time or the will to put up the "new" "new" BnB. I therefore propose that we go ahead without him... I'm guessing both Mordib and myself can do this with little hassle...

... the alternative is to live with this "temp" forum for "ever"... in truth it's already been running too long to just be dumped for a new site (something I tried to get across to some people back in November I think...)

So I guess it really depends on wether or not you guys are happy with THIS forum software as it is, and with THIS incarnation of BnB (knowing it will never be "much" more) - or if you want a better solution...

(I'm all for ditching XMB in favour of phpBB - but that's just my personal preference)

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 01 Feb 2005, 12:06

I might be a green horn considering this, but how would a new forum be better? I mean people can sign up, post new topics and reply and it works here, doesn't it?

What improvements would there be?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 01 Feb 2005, 15:25

In a way I sort of agree with LD, but Gojensen is right, if we can use PhPBB (sp?) instead of XMB (better software) - go for it.

Would we still get the same people signing up (and more regulars) if we used a "new" "new" forum?

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 01 Feb 2005, 18:01

Meh, just everyone move to [u][url=http://www.minipockycinema.com/forum/]Mini Pocky Cinema Forum[/url][/u]

[Edited on 1/2/2005 by gasteropod]

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Feb 2005, 19:59

What real advantages would there be to moving? What's so temporary about this site? It's seems fine to me.

I wouldn't move without Toge completely. That seems unfair.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 01 Feb 2005, 20:17

'cause the Mini Pocky forum is ace, that's why

Just look at the pink design...

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 01 Feb 2005, 21:31

Mini Pocky Cinema Forum isnt Bullets so thats not an option at all! I could name many sites everyone could move to, but we want Bullets not a stand in forum!

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 01 Feb 2005, 21:49

This isn't Bullets, Romero, it's just trying to be. Just 'cause Mini Pocky isn't called Bullets, if all you lot come there, we can all make it how Bullets used to be and just get on with it.

ReconFive · Post by **ReconFive** » 02 Feb 2005, 03:25

I know i'm new here and my opinion isn't really relevant....but i'm perfectly happy with the forum the way it is now

Mordib · Post by **Mordib** » 02 Feb 2005, 06:25

**wanders in fashionably late as usual**

The polite thing to do would have been to talk to Toge first, letting him know that any urges we have to get the site done now rather than later have nothing against him and that when he has the time again he is more than welcome to take an active part in running things again. AAfter all, we've all had times when real life things have suddenly had to take priority over the things we really want to do, its very fustrating.

Anyway lots of good points in this thread, we may have the name but we will never be the old bnb again, not here, not at mini pocky, not anywhere. We are the new BnB, honouring the old bringing in the new.

Then theres the question of sticking with this forum, which as LD pointed out actually works fine as a forum, or moving on to some version of phpbb. The key here is people need to identify what they want in the site that they dont have now, what changes they would like and so forth, otherwise any move is just going to be an exercise in futility.

keep the discussion coming!

m.

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 02 Feb 2005, 09:49

My point in calling this a temporary site was simply that as you all know Toge was planning on setting up a new phpBB based forum with a portal, so that the site could be something more than just a forum... this was planned back in November, got delayed till the new year... and now it's delayed indefinetly (even though that notice seemingly disappeared from the announcments)...

Finally you all should realize by now that Toge doesn't "make or break" this "new BnB"... the users does

It's pretty clear to me that Toge hasn't had time to do what he wanted for the community - and it's then natural for the community to get someone else to do it. Unfortunately people on the net have a tendency to "own" and get too sensitive about stuff... (which is often caused by the large "younger inexperienced" majority (minority?) on the net). I've got nothing against Toge - but I want more

As those that have followed my "suggestion" from a few months back now, I would like to see this turn into something better and more than just another forum... as it is now, I'm not actually getting anything out of this site that I can't get elsewhere - which is kind of a shame I think...

I personally don't like the software running here, and I would like to see something more out of BnB (like better showcasing reviews etc.)

However... with several of those contributing reviews to the old BnB now gone, perhaps the entire point is moot.

(As for signing up and stuff, porting XMB to phpBB seems to be easy ([url]http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=72[/url]) meaning that user accounts, posts and threads etc. would be kept complete).

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Feb 2005, 10:46

[quote][i]Originally posted by gasteropod[/i]
This isn't Bullets, Romero, it's just trying to be. Just 'cause Mini Pocky isn't called Bullets, if all you lot come there, we can all make it how Bullets used to be and just get on with it. [/quote]

I agree it doesnt matter a jot what the forum is called

Its the atmosphere and feel of the place that made BnB what it was, not the name.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 02 Feb 2005, 11:48

Mni Pocky is great! I'm there everyday and there I get what I cannot get here anymore, which might be sad, but true. Over there, you get and also contribute news about Asian movies in general and DVD releases.

Over here it has become a matter of a fun forum, which is not wrong at all. Why else in the world would I still come here? (Apart from the great members of this forum.)

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 02 Feb 2005, 13:38

thelostdragon, I'm glad you share my opinion exactly. I also love the atmosphere of Mini Pocky and visit it daily. It really is the best forum if a move were to occur from here. Also, there are people on there, that were from the original Bullets, but aren't here, so everyone could reunite. There isn't an established community that you'd be intruding on, since it is a new forum.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 02 Feb 2005, 18:01

I agree it doesnt matter a jot what the forum is called Its the atmosphere and feel of the place that made BnB what it was, not the name.

I disagree completly about that! and the quote doesnt work either!

fact is I want Bullets back and it is possable and someone can and is offering to do it.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 02 Feb 2005, 18:13

What? You think all that matters is that it is called Bullets n Babes?! You're not right...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Feb 2005, 18:18

You tell him

IMO if we get enough people posting, (old BnB regulars and newcomers) and the right spirit back, we can get the "BnB" atmosphere which is important, who cares what the place is actually called?

Well thats what I think.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 02 Feb 2005, 18:34

Hahaha, when you said "well that's what I think" it reminded me of on Bean when he says his big speech at the end!

But yeah, agreed.

I wish all the BnB members weren't scattered around different forums, but people have reason to not post on this one.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Feb 2005, 18:43

I too wish people werent scattered around other places, I want everyone in 1 place too

LOL I wasnt thinking of Bean when I wrote that but it does sound like it now I read it!

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 02 Feb 2005, 19:30

The reason we are all scattered is because of reasons like you are sujesting! evceryone seems to say go to this forum or this one or that one, a total waste of time!

Juist everyone go to Bulletsnbabes! instead of wasting time on other lesser forums!

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 02 Feb 2005, 20:14

If people prefer other forums to this one, then there must be a reason for that

This thread is probably the most popular on the forum lol, what does that say about it!

Mordib · Post by **Mordib** » 03 Feb 2005, 08:46

I'm getting dizzy on this round-a-bout of a discussion.

Bulletsnbabes will be rebuilt, efforts will be made to both emulate the old site and bring it forward. Some people may return to the fold, some may leave, all may leave but we're going to try it anyway.

To those of you that are desperate for all the old members to settle in the same place, your goal is most noble (it is the ideal outcome, the name matters not) but totally unrealistic. People have made their choices, none of them are the wrong choice, and whilst at some point in the future they might change their minds for now there is absolutely nothing to justify it.

I think its really great that Mini Poke is proving successful, and the other forums that have gained notoriety since BnB packed in. Its not an either or situation. We're essentially fan sites, not run for money or power and as such dont need to compete against each other.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Feb 2005, 17:51

[quote][i]Originally posted by gasteropod[/i]
This thread is probably the most popular on the forum lol, what does that say about it! [/quote]
That you've not done your homework!

p.s - I second that Mordib.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 03 Feb 2005, 17:54

Hahaha yeah, sorry, that was definitely exaggeration

Mordib · Post by **Mordib** » 08 Feb 2005, 08:06

Right.. in yet another atempt to get this going... please comment on the following, adding your own if you can think of any.

1. fourms - phpbb in some form or other. spoiler tags. What other features do people like/want in a forum

2. Reviews - user reviews in the forum, sick to the 'what have you just seen thread, or its own subforum, or somekind of blog front page type stuff? also comercial reviews as in review discs, anyone feel they can dedicate the time if I organised something?

3. News - As with commercial reviews, news relies greatly on having dedicated people who check out various sites collecting the stuff, then putting it up.

4. articles - article, as in column writing, as in 'the state of hongkong cinema in the uk today' kind of thing. Anyone fancy their luck writing such things?

5. aesthetics - colours, style and so forth.

6. sponsers - do we want them? do we need them??

any more thoughts??

m.