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Here's a good article about the missing scenes from The Big Boss.

http://littledragon.builtfree.org/boss.html

Unfortunately theres no news on specs for HKL "Boss" Platinum yet.
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saltysam wrote:what's this version?
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.538 ... etails.htm
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fair enough :)
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Those specs are good. What's bad about Zoke? Are they bootleggers?
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Markgway wrote:Those specs are good. What's bad about Zoke? Are they bootleggers?
reading this article they sound very anti-piracy 8)

http://www.ordinarygweilo.com/2003/12/t ... espon.html
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They sound legit. Why should they be avoided, Eva?

FIST OF FURY
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.538 ... etails.htm

No Mandarin track - not even a remix?

Seems very unlikely for a Mainland release.
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It looks like a FS sourced DVD. Interesting article but it's never going to work what with bootlegging being such a big business.
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I'd like to get a Fortune Star-sourced, English Subtitled, Mandarin Mono-audio DVD that doesn't look dyed-in-pink. Unfortunately Fox released there's only in a box set. But if Zoke's individual releases are the exact same as Fox's it might be a viable option.
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don't you reckon it's worth hanging on for the hkl mark?
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I was thinking more of Fist of Fury (and Way of the Dragon, which I couldn't find).
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What's wrong with FOF: PE HKL?

It's gorgeous and has Mandarin Mono which you and Grim love wetting yourself over :D . Oh you're talking about the HKL. Are you basing your pink opinion on screen shots? Me thinks you've got a touch of the "Yi-long" with this one :wink:

I'd buy a FS Mastered WOTD too. The box set with "Legacy of Rage" is to much for extras I'm not interested in (LOR is an extras as far as I'm concerned) and the full box set is overkill/to much.
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Play say the release is still down for July (so fairly soon) but HKL themselves said October. :?
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The HKL is ridiculously pink in screen shots. Those guys look more caucasian than I do. Fox got it right. But unfortunately only in a not-too-cheap box set.
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I found out HKL is the Cantonese version with no missing frames (if you're refering to that site with 9 'edits').

Those 9 edits were exclusive to the US edit and when the Cantonese version was being created, GH probably dropped them (due to the likely fact, the hacking got so out of control, the film was probably fucked and had to trim out a lot of damage in following scenes!) if GH were working from the Circa print and they also subtituted the killer-blow at the end (both versions show alternating killer blows which both initially were together).

Both the US and Cantonese versions have footage not in the other.

The real deal would be to line up: Uncut version with Mandarin and English (1971) GH soundtracks.

FINALES (RARE!) - Created by Bentley2005:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YhYlDEgOVA - Original uncut killer blow (ignore music - just for accompaniment)!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVhDztC1NJA - Cantonese killer blow (with Mandarin soundtrack - edited to fit).
US Killer Blow can be found on Fox OOP DVD set (old one, not current FS prints).

US trimmed out frames of the boss bending down after the knife is kicked into him and shutting his eyes in pain after being stabbed in the rib cage - that's why English audio on HKL DVD doesn't synch in addition to the replacement shot issue :) .

So as you see, both Cantonese and US killer blows actually once connected initially before the hacking was done!

Original 1971 English Export International dub!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWXqIA3Ocds - Family Reunion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcB2N9KmGA - Threat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNK4T9FHkaY - Telling Off.
Trailer found on 'Man and the Legend' uncut VHS has more of this dub!
I'm sure I've also heard Bruce (after the fight with the thugs at gambling den) say "guess I broke a promise" but I just don't know where. Most likely a clip. I'll have another think and dig through all the documentaries 8) .
Riverside mourning scene on HKL DVD.

Hope that helps guys :lol: .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YhYlDEgOVA

Cheers for posting the above clip Chen Lung. That's how the scene should play uncut. :)
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Something I should announce:

It turns out that the distributor I've mentioned who has the 'Big Boss' doesn't have it. There was a bit of a mix-up. Maybe soon though?

Sorry guys :cry: .
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Damn, an uncut Big Boss is looking harder to find than a decent Steven Segal film!

Incidentally, I bought cheaply the old Fox DVD of the US version and midway through I decided Big Boss is my favourite HK film. Why? Don't know. It's got Bruce, gore, nice photography, a real emotional story and Nora serving nice cool drinks. Plus, it's got three completely different music scores that makes the film seem constantly fresh
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The film gets better torwards the end and I have to agree with Bey, Bruce's performance is better at night and definately during the end.

Quite an emotional movie and I'd like to see the original GH score by Wang Fu Lee as it seemed to have some nice orchestra pieces. Wonderful.

Probably won't be watching the irritating Cantonese soundtrack again without having to hear "wowoa" "Ahhhhhhhhwoaoaoaoa" ever 2 seconds when you least expact it (also comes in wrongly).
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chenlung wrote:The film gets better torwards the end and I have to agree with Bey, Bruce's performance is better at night and definately during the end.

Quite an emotional movie and I'd like to see the original GH score by Wang Fu Lee as it seemed to have some nice orchestra pieces. Wonderful.

Probably won't be watching the irritating Cantonese soundtrack again without having to hear "wowoa" "Ahhhhhhhhwoaoaoaoa" ever 2 seconds when you least expact it (also comes in wrongly).
Bruce's character evolves in the film from a shy, withdrawn, naive person into a man who stands up and takes charge. So it makes sense that his performance evolves. I know Lo Wei was not the best director/writer but in Cheng Chao-an he helped create one of the best characters in 70's Kung Fu Cinema. Why do I love The Big Boss a million times more than fan favourites like The Five Venoms? Because Cheng is a human being who I can empathise with, who I can feel connected with, rather than the walking cyphers who populate the more formulaic films

The extract of Wang Fu-ling's score I heard on the HKL DVD sounded very effective. Can anyone link me to other extracts? I plan to buy the Mandarin version soon but I can't wait! It'd be nice if the upcoming HKL DVD could include the English song "To Be A Man" that was on the Japanese album

The Cantonese version isn't that bad but you're right: the dubbed on screams are pathetic. See the HK version of Game Of Death to see how to sync Bruce Lee cries properly. And what's with that stupid chimey music that plays whenever Bruce looks at his locket? Otherwise, a decent score but the jazzy US one is awesome!
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GOD HK version is far superior to the retarded US war cries and fly-swatter nunchaku foley.

I like the Cantonese music score that begins after Bruce kills the boss.
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Do you work for HKL Chen?

I'm sure their PE is still coming. I'll probably upgrade when it's under £10 but until then I can't be bothered, most of it's boring (which is a shame as it really shouldn't be).
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I will wait till its £5.97 quid in the Musiczone sales :D

But yes I want it to come out soon, I like it.
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I still work for HKL but not much is going.
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chenlung wrote:I still work for HKL but not much is going.
Please tell me you're not responsible for the cover-designs ;)
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