HungFist wrote:Because it costs $5.99 and is probably better quality that EE and Momentum.
Fair enough but considering we're talking completely PAL here NTSC problems won't be an issue and also considering this was shot on a small budget I seriously doubt any release looks any better or worse.
HungFist wrote:And since all the bootlegs were based on it, it should be easy to find timed subs for it.
Considering the price fair enough but the UK R2 is now pretty cheap and it will save you having to add subs.
HungFist wrote:Isn't the UK disc missing some scene/stunt?
Nope the cuts are all the same. Where did you read that? The UK and Aussie extras are different but are about equal and the UK has DTS.
HungFist wrote:Ja tervetuloa aivansamalle minunkin puolesta, vaikka toivotukset ovatkin pari kuukautta myöhässä. Kukaan ei ilmeisesti huomannut sinua aiemmin
Show off . Care to translate? . The best I could get out of some silly translator is:
"And welcome aivansamalle mine for , although toivotukset ovatkin par monthly late. Anyone no apparently huomannut thee before"
It looks more like Finglish than either language now
bradavon wrote:
Nope the cuts are all the same. Where did you read that? The UK and Aussie extras are different but are about equal and the UK has DTS.
I didn't bother to find out more about it. I just remember there being topics on different forums about the UK disc missing something.
bradavon wrote:Show off . Care to translate? . The best I could get out of some silly translator is:
"And welcome aivansamalle mine for , although toivotukset ovatkin par monthly late. Anyone no apparently huomannut thee before"
It looks more like Finglish than either language now
Haven't you used translators before? That's what I have to deal with all the time when translating japanese or french web sites or subs... :x
But it's not that hard to understand really, just change the order of some words and use your imagination.
Took a quick look at my new (and one old) Thai dvds
Hana and Alice looks more or less identical to the Korean disc. I haven't seen R3K myself, but I found some (small) caps here: http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti ... rison.html
Thai dvd looks slightly better but it's probably due to different capping software. Can be sure, though. But I think both are ports of Norman's Nose.
A Scene at the Sea should be a port of Bandai (as is the out of print korean disc). English subs included.
I don't have anything to compare Nana with, but the image quality looks absolutely gorgeous. Must be a R2J port.
Zoo is interlaced, but looks otherwise very good. Most likely a R2J port. English subs included.
I wasn't too happy with the audio sync on Onk-Bak. Brad, do you recall any problems with your disc? Maybe I should try EE afterall. According to michael ( http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/Re ... sp?ID=6281 ) it should have good audio (which is more important to me than the PQ)
I don't have Ong-Bak Thai DVD did I say I did? Sorry I don't.
I'd say Madman have treated Ong-bak with the most respect, definitely the best version (if you need English friendly) but I wouldn't rely solely on Michael DVD reviews they're aren't usually very thorough.
bradavon wrote:
I'd say Madman have treated Ong-bak with the most respect, definitely the best version (if you need English friendly) but I wouldn't rely solely on Michael DVD reviews they're aren't usually very thorough.
Nope, some unknown bootleg guy treated Ong-Bak with the most respect, by just subbing the Thai DVD and not messing with the movie or giving it a low bitrate...
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
It made me laugh Yi-long waffle on about respect and his example was citing a bootlegger. Have you tried putting a DVD-9 on to a DVD-5 without lowering the bit-rate?
Only Yi-long would disagree with my above statement.
bradavon wrote:Isn't that an oxymoron? A bootleg with a high bitrate?
Well, you're right, but the bootlegger did it because he didnt have much of a choice (or he would have gone for a DVD-9), but a movie compagny who releases a new DVD does have the choice if they really want to put 2 whole movies on 1 disc, thus choosing to give the paying customer a lower bitrate movie, as they also include a 2nd version which hardly anyone would be interested in, while still asking top-dollar for it.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
Yi-Long wrote:but a movie compagny who releases a new DVD does have the choice if they really want to put 2 whole movies on 1 disc, thus choosing to give the paying customer a lower bitrate movie, as they also include a 2nd version which hardly anyone would be interested in, while still asking top-dollar for it.
Nobody cares any more, you're like a broken record.
True but I don't know ANYONE else who still cares.
If you check out other DVD Forums most are happier (i.e - not happy) with the Premier Asia DVD, the same lot probably who get angry when Western films don't include the Original Mono. Yep double standards at play.
But like I said if you want to miss out on over 3 hours of extras just to assist your pride go for it.
thelostdragon wrote:Uhm... brad? Did it occur to you that there are DVD-9 boots? Don't know about that specific Thai disc of "Ong-Bak", but DVD-9 boots do exist.
Yes I do and yes it's possible BUT considering the cost of DVD-9s it negates the need to bootleg in the first place. I'm willing to bet a DVD-9 wasn't used in any of the process after it left the source media.
Yi-Long wrote:Well, you're right, but the bootlegger did it because he didnt have much of a choice (or he would have gone for a DVD-9)
I've no idea but I bet said bootlegger now has a copy of some offficial DVD unless they didn't like it that much in the first place.
The fact is the R4 even if it's not perfect will have better or as good AV as the bootleg you cite. You also keep forgetting so I'll say it loudly THE FILM WAS SHOT ON A LOW BUDGET. It's never going to look pristine.
Why am I even replying this is an old discussion which was fixed years ago.
bradavon wrote:True but I don't know ANYONE else who still cares.
If you check out other DVD Forums most are happier (i.e - not happy) with the Premier Asia DVD, the same lot probably who get angry when Western films don't include the Original Mono. Yep double standards at play.
But like I said if you want to miss out on over 3 hours of extras just to assist your pride go for it.
thelostdragon wrote:Uhm... brad? Did it occur to you that there are DVD-9 boots? Don't know about that specific Thai disc of "Ong-Bak", but DVD-9 boots do exist.
Yes I do and yes it's possible BUT considering the cost of DVD-9s it negates the need to bootleg in the first place. I'm willing to bet a DVD-9 wasn't used in any of the process after it left the source media.
Yi-Long wrote:Well, you're right, but the bootlegger did it because he didnt have much of a choice (or he would have gone for a DVD-9)
I've no idea but I bet said bootlegger now has a copy of some offficial DVD unless they didn't like it that much in the first place.
The fact is the R4 even if it's not perfect will have better or as good AV as the bootleg you cite. You also keep forgetting so I'll say it loudly THE FILM WAS SHOT ON A LOW BUDGET. It's never going to look pristine.
Why am I even replying this is an old discussion which was fixed years ago.
I never asked for pristine video, I just want them to do their best.
But if/when they comprise the videoquality just so they can include a shitty version on the disc as well, I wont buy it.
And I'm sure many are happy enough with the PA release, but that doesnt change the fact that PA should have included the original soundtrack and they would have released the perfect, ultimate Ong-Bak DVD. Yet they chose differently.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
bradavon wrote:...considering the cost of DVD-9s it negates the need to bootleg in the first place.
Well, in the case of "Ong-Bak" obviously, when it comes to taking it into one's own hands to create the perfect version.
BTW, I'm happy with the PA and the Luc Besson version. I have watched the original one with the original music, and both other versions work far better for me. That's just my opinion and I do understand if someone wants to have both soundtracks on one disc.
bradavon wrote:It made me laugh Yi-long waffle on about respect and his example was citing a bootlegger. Have you tried putting a DVD-9 on to a DVD-5 without lowering the bit-rate?
Only Yi-long would disagree with my above statement.
Ehmmmm.. nowhere did I, or would I ever, disagree with your statement.
However, I feel a bootlegger who just takes a good quality DVD and ads good subs, has more respect for the movie then some company that's either CHANGING the movie, or sticks 2 whole movies on 1 DVD and then asks full price for it. And btw, a bootleg is very very cheap, or even free if you download it. SO easy choice: Australian DVD with 2 movies on 1 disk, or good quality bootleg with subs.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
. Care to translate? 
. The best I could get out of some silly translator is:
