JSA: R2FR vs R2Scandinavia vs R3Thai vs R2DE vs R3K

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 16:21

First shot.
CTV:

CJ Ent R3:

WWC:

Mangpong:

R2DE:

Minute 11.
CTV:

CJ Ent R3:

WWC:

Mangpong:

R2DE:

Minute 37.
CTV:

CJ Ent R3:

WWC:

Mangpong:

R2DE:

Minute 80.
CTV:

CJ Ent R3:

WWC:

Mangpong:

R2DE:

Autopsy scene.
CTV:

CJ ent R3:

WWC:

Mangpong:

R2DE:

I heard that it was censored on some DVDs.
EDIT: Yep, confirmed.

The CJ Entertainment disc is heavily contrast-boosted, blurry and censored. Where did CTV find their print ?

Note that the french disc is the only one in which you can actually see the rain in shot N°4.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 May 2006, 17:09

At what point does that appear? I'll check my Thai DVD. I don't remember it.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 24 May 2006, 17:12

Who turned the lights off?
Who censored my dvd?
Who wants to buy it?

World Wide Cinema (Scandinavia)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... aWWCR2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... WWCR21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... WWCR22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... WWCR23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... WWCR24.jpg

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 24 May 2006, 17:14

bradavon wrote:At what point does that appear? I'll check my Thai DVD. I don't remember it.

17 min on my dvd.

Brad, even if you can't take screencaps, can you please compare your thai dvd with the french (and maybe other dvds when the caps come) dvd and post some comments. I don't have time for subbing every single french dvd and I need something good and cheap fast...

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 17:33

OMG Your DVD sucks ! :x
Sorry, HungFist.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 24 May 2006, 18:41

I pity any Scandinavian owning that shit.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 May 2006, 19:27

Bloody hell the Scandinavian is really dark and loses so much detail in the first shot.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 19:32

Everybody deserves the right to see Shin Ha-Gyun's penis.
Hope you find a better DVD.

LD ? Can we get some korean or german stuff from you ?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 May 2006, 21:15

The WTC image is much inferior, though it's a bit more colourful than the CTV, which is a bit pale.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 May 2006, 22:19

Mangpong (Thailand) added and again all I altered was the vertical resolution to 408 from 480. I notice the others are 404, which is better?

I never realised the Thai R3 was so dark, it's not to bad for under a fiver. It bears the HK R3 which was only goal:

Anamorphic
Korean DTS/DD5.1
English subs which are mostly fine but near the end some lines look like the person creating the subs fell asleep on the keyboard
Making Of - Not subtitled in English

At least it's not censored.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 22:23

Yuck. Shot N°3 looks like it was done during the night.
+ Picture is very soft. Me doesn't like the Thai DVD.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 May 2006, 22:26

It's an old release when Mangpong just started to make an effort. I'd like to see how the HK R3 compares?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 22:27

Just for fun:

R3Thai vs R2FR:

Ouch.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 24 May 2006, 22:28

Thanks, Brad

You know, a funny thing, I never noticed how dark my WWC disc was either. I didn't considered it a great disc, but didn't think it was quite that bad. I always thought that was the way the movie was shot and that no dvd release would look great. But Tom has once again proven me wrong. I guess I'll be getting the french disc one day.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 22:32

I'm sure the french DVD is how the movie is supposed to look:

If there was contrast boosting, it would be visible in the first shot.
The whites should be clipped, but they're not (top of the owl's head).
In fact, the french DVD shows more detail in the whites than the other versions.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 24 May 2006, 22:43

I didn't mean the french dvd isn't how the movie is supposed to look. I meant that I though the original material was poor (like Ashes of Time) and no dvd would ever look great because of that. But I was wrong (not sure if that's a good thing, considering I have about 12 dvds waiting for subbing

)

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 24 May 2006, 22:48

BTW I'm pretty sure that the Tartan UK R2 is censored in the autopsy scene.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 22:57

I heard the Tartan UK DVD was a NTSC-PAL transfer with combing and ghosting à go-go. Other than that it's supposed to be fine.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 May 2006, 23:04

Tom2681 wrote:LD ? Can we get some korean or german stuff from you ?

Yeah, soon.

Seriously, tomorrow. I'm too tired now TBH.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 May 2006, 23:06

No problem, mate.

Thai vs CTV.

It's like VHS vs DVD.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 24 May 2006, 23:11

I heard that the Korean disc is interlaced, so it also exhibits ghosting/combing artefacts. Just what I heard though - i've nae proof min.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 25 May 2006, 00:10

Whatever.

R3 CJ Entertainment (South Korea):
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... r3k.01.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... r3k.02.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... r3k.03.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... r3k.04.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... r3k.05.jpg

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 25 May 2006, 00:14

There is something seriously wrong in those caps.

*Updating comparison*

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 25 May 2006, 00:19

R2 Sunfilm (Germany):
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 2de.01.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 2de.02.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 2de.03.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 2de.04.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 2de.05.jpg

It's funny, because Sunfilm was supplied with the exact same print that was used by CJ Entertainment. However, Sunfilm messed up with the re-mastering.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 25 May 2006, 00:20

MY EYES ! MY EYES !

Thanks, LD.

*Updating comparison again*