Battle Royale II: Revenge - Limited Edition Tin

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 May 2006, 16:12

From Tartan:

Disc One: includes a newly cut version of the film featuring over twenty-minutes more action. The film is presented in anamorphic widescreen with Japanese Stereo, DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround and optional English subtitles.

Disc Two: Contains nearly three-hours of bonus material, of which we hope to bring you full details soon.

Tin art and menus: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57382
"Rough" Rear cover art: http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... venge.html

What Dave has to say at DVD Active:

"From what I have read this is NOT just an extended version but a pretty drastic re-edit that changes the focus of the film to different characters. "Revenge" shows more from Shiori's point-of-view than Nanahara's and has 15 minutes of extra footage.

This is what i found online about it:

- Added CGI blood
- some new music.
- Slightly extended battle scenes.
- More Character Development of the new class.
- The Alternate "Farewell to the Piano" scene restored.
- More from Shiori's point-of-view, than Shuya's, hence the title change "REVENGE."
- STANCE PUNKS song on credits removed, replaced with Aki Maeda (Noriko) reading a letter they got from the kids of Afghanistan.
- "Requiem" and "Revenge" are two completely different takes on BRII. Shuya's point-of-view is the "Requiem" version. Shiori's point-of-view is the "Revenge" version."

p.s - £15.99 after Vouchers from CD WOW:

http://www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2. ... ffid=13858

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 May 2006, 16:17

I really hated BR2 on the first viewing but I gave it a second chance and enjoyed it much more on a second viewing. Like most things: It helped a great deal when I wasn't trying to compare it to the original.

I reckon I'll pick this up BUT do I want to sit through it a third time I'm really not sure.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 20 May 2006, 16:27

I watched Revenge a few days ago. It's a great film, but nowhere near as good as Requiem.
Telling the story from Shiori's POV was not a good idea IMO.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 May 2006, 18:17

Tom2681 wrote:I watched Revenge a few days ago. It's a great film, but nowhere near as good as Requiem.

That doesn't sound good as Requiem is hardly steller. It's decent enough but I have little interest in watching it a third time.

@ Tom: Is the story wildly different? Do the changes make a big difference to the overall tone? If you hate Requiem I assume you're going to hate Revenge even more?

Thinking about it I'm not sure I'm going to bother. Like I said I enjoyed Requiem on a second viewing but it's far from great.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 20 May 2006, 18:49

The changes made to BR2 change the overall tone of the film and reduce its impact. While Requiem was about terrorism, Revenge is about...well... revenge.

There are lots of new shots inserted into the film, little bits of added character development and a completely different perspective.

Bottom-line: it all depends on what you like in BR2.
If you like Shiori's crusade and hatred towards Shuya, then watch Revenge.
If you prefer Shuya and his quest for freedom, then watch Requiem.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 May 2006, 18:52

I assume the stupid rant about America is all still present?

I tell you what I dislike: The very ropey script and dialogue.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 20 May 2006, 18:59

I assume the stupid rant about America is all still present?

Stupid ? That's the heart of the film !
If you're talking about the scene where Takeuchi writes a list of countries bombed by the USA, I think it's still there.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 May 2006, 19:07

Yep I am. :shock:

If they actually had the guts to say America, USA etc . . . it would've had much more credibility but to list all those names and make it obvious who they were talking about without mentioning any names was really cowardly.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 20 May 2006, 22:55

I thought that Requiem (I guess I'll have to call it that to differentiate from Revenge) was ghastly. An insult to the original Battle Royale that never should have been made. The fact that Tom loves it only proves my point. Riki Whatsisname gives possibly the worst perfromance I have ever seen and the politics are mind-bogglingly stupid.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 20 May 2006, 23:05

Riki's terrific performance was the best thing about BR2

The first half was rather terrible, but the second was pretty decent. It would be easier for me to appreciate the film if the original didn't exist

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 May 2006, 13:41

Markgway wrote:and the politics are mind-bogglingly stupid.

Exactly for what is supposed to be a credible film.

HungFist wrote:It would be easier for me to appreciate the film if the original didn't exist

Exactly. I've seen far worse films which get higher praise. I remember the action being well enough coegraphed. That doesn't mean it's a decent film though.

I'd liked to see Revenge but think I'll wait for the eventual Tartan Standard 2 Disc SE which is bound to eventually be under £10. £15.99 is to much.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Jun 2006, 15:57

This may niggle purists...?

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Jun 2006, 16:34

Nah...

One cut was required to remove the Japanese text and English subtitle which state: "This film is restricted to aged 15 and over"

Since I'm not going to buy it, it doesn't bother me much.

I don't get the BBFC. Battle Royale was a film made for kids (from 15 to 18 ) and these idiots gave it a 18 rating.
BR is my cousin's favourite film and he's 8 years old.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Jun 2006, 16:46

Tom2681 wrote:BR is my cousin's favourite film and he's 8 years old.

Yeah, but he probably plays with knives and matches....

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Jun 2006, 16:57

Nope, because he's smart enough not to be influenced by cinema.

Apparently that's an issue in Britain. I bet all kids up there would rape/headbutt each-other if they saw actors doing that in films.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 01 Jun 2006, 17:10

BR got the highest cinema rating in Japan (R15), how is that for kids?

It got the highest rating in Japan, the highest rating here. Hardly a kids movie!

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 01 Jun 2006, 17:10

Hey Guys, I have this Limited Edition tin, and it is a 3 disk version, not a 2 disk version.

It has both cuts of the movies and an extra dvd. All dvds are dvd9. The tin is really nice, it suits my other battle royale film.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Jun 2006, 17:29

'BRII' should be an '18' just for being shite. Save the children and all that.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Jun 2006, 17:50

grim_tales wrote:BR got the highest cinema rating in Japan (R15), how is that for kids?
It got the highest rating in Japan, the highest rating here. Hardly a kids movie!

R18 is the highest rating in Japan.

And it is indeed a kids film. Fukasaku wasn't happy at all when they gave the film '15' rating. That's why he created the director's cut version, which got a lower rating (apparently '12', not sure about this, I just know it was lower than the previous rating).

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:30

That's why he created the director's cut version, which got a lower rating

As usual, your brain has gone dyslexic.

1. Kinji Fukasaku put together the theatrical version. He was hoping to get a 12 rating, he got a 15.
2. He reduced the sound of gunfire and cut out some bits of gore but that wasn't enough. The movie was released with a R-15 rating.
3. Later he put together a director's cut, adding lots of CGI blood, new scenes and new shots, amping up the sound. Ironically, the director's cut also ended up being R-15.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:35

Tom2681 wrote: 3. Later he put together a director's cut, adding lots of CGI blood, new scenes and new shots, amping up the sound. Ironically, the director's cut also ended up being R-15.

No, it got a lower rating. Remember the opening scene? There's a '15' logo that gets ripped apart.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:37

*Checking*

Nah, it's just a stylistic thing. The rating really is 15.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:40

Fine. I will copy the text from the booklet that comes with the world wide cinema dvd. Gonna take a moment...

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:42

It's funny that we're arguing over the japanese rating of a film that's been out for 6 years, ain't it ?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:49

It's even funnier I'm gonna finish my writing before checking the japanese dvd cover...