Lady Vengeance HK 2-disc SE?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Apr 2006, 06:36

I stumbled across the following on cd-wow.
http://www6.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2 ... ode=278178

Special Features (Chinese/ English Subtitles Available For All Features):

* Making Of The Film
* Characters For Lady Vengeance: Interviews With The Main Cast
* 3 Audio Commentary
* Sympathy For Lady Vengeance In Venezia
* Promotion
* Style Of Lady Vengeance
* Deleted Scenes
* Gag Reel
* A Book Of Photo Album For Lady Vengeance

Out May 4th. Hopefully it'll include the Fade-to-B&W version. Anyone willing to gamble and order it?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 22 Apr 2006, 08:43

The extras have English subs? Damn! I don't think the Korean DVD has.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Apr 2006, 10:28

grim_tales wrote:The extras have English subs? Damn! I don't think the Korean DVD has.

According to Rewind, no. It'd be nice to have subbed extras, but the F2B version is what's most important to me - Does this HK SE have both cuts is the real question.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Apr 2006, 13:18

EvaUnit02 wrote:but the F2B version is what's most important to me

Exactly extras come second. It's good to see it's becoming common for HK DVDs to have English subs.

THREE Audio commentaries and subtitled too sweet but wait the Korean DVD had TWO Commentaries.

EvaUnit02 wrote:Does this HK SE have both cuts is the real question.

Personally I'm willing to bet no it won't as:

1. Including two cuts is rare on a HK DVD
2. The second disc looks like it has extras (i.e - the extras disc)
3. The F2B version was considered LE content on the Korean DVD (which is still at CD WOW at the same price)
4. CD WOW are usually fairly accurate

Madman are our best bet of a definitive version.

Without the F2B version I really don't care about this DVD, extras on Asian films are a bonus. It could be because they'll be subtitled, it's just very few interest me.

I'm happy with my Korean DVD I can play DTS so the odd choice of audio tracks doesn't bother me.

p.s - Someone could e-mail CD WOW and ask.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Apr 2006, 13:41

bradavon wrote:
EvaUnit02 wrote:but the F2B version is what's most important to me
THREE Audio commentaries and subtitled too sweet but wait the Korean DVD had TWO Commentaries.

Rewind says it has 3, one's a critic commentary.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Apr 2006, 13:50

My mistake it is 3 -

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti ... eview.html

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 22 Apr 2006, 14:56

Are the Korean DVD commentaries subtitled?

I don't think they are.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Apr 2006, 19:27

Grim don't you have the DVD? I'm sure you do so how about you check. Sorry but come on or read some reviews if you don't.

No none of the Korean DVD extras have English subs but that's so rare it's a given. Why would Eva be bringing this thread to our attention (pretty much) if English subtitled extras weren't new to this film.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 22 Apr 2006, 20:10

I did check Brad when i originally watched it but I couldnt remember.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Apr 2006, 22:58

No offense Grim, but do you ever bother to look up simple things like some DVD specs for yourself once in a while?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:38

Yes.
Fair enough Eva, honestly, I did check to see if the commentary had subs or not after my first viewing

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:51

hey,

Panorama has done some splendid work on the extras from for HK dvd's, subtitling extra features on special editions such as Election, Butterfly and Everlasting Regret. However they haven't gone as far as doing it for the commentary tracks...yet.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 30 Apr 2006, 12:30

Staffyman has posted an interesting point over at DVD Times:

"Well, intriguingly, the listing for this version at DDD House has the 3 Audio Commentaries on Disc 2, suggesting that there might be another version of the film on there? I'd heard that the transfer on the original disc left a lot to be desired, hopefully this version, whatever's on there, will rectify that."

And my reply to him:

"Interesting point you raise there and if it does have both cuts I may upgrade from my Korean LE but the commentaries aren't supposed to be shown for one cut of the film and the other cut gets no commentaries (i.e - Each DVD having a different cut).

I suspect ParK Chan-wook has different things to say on each commentary so putting both of his commentaries on the same film wouldn't make any sense."

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=60619

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 May 2006, 22:29

So is anyone getting this? Funny it's no longer on CD WOW.

I can't work out how the extras work, both DDDHouse and Yes Asia list ALL the commentaries being on Disc 2:

Disc One:
# The Making of Sympathy For Lady Vengeance
# Interviews with the main cast

Disc Two:
# Three audio commentaries:
- With director Park Chan Wook and Lee Young Ae
- With director Park Chan Wook and the Director of Photography
- With Korean film critic Kim Young Jin
# Sympathy For Lady Vengeance In Venice
# Promotional material
# Director's introduction
# The Style Of Lady Vengeance featurette
# Deleted scenes with optional director's commentary
# Gag reel

http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.as ... 004230736/

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 14 May 2006, 07:25

Turns out that there's no subs on extras and no F2B version either. R3K SE is still the definitive release at this time.

I highly doubt that whatever Madman is brewing will be any better.

thedvdforum wrote:Got it today.

No english subs on any extras

Which is especially irritating as every menu item labeled in English.

Disc 2 has the film again with the three commentaries, just the three commentaries , the original soundtrack is absent. I suspect this was done because the version on disc one has a DTS track.

The colour fade version is not on either disc.

On the positive side the packaging is quite lovely. The slipcase is rigid and sturdy, and the discs are housed in a hardback book style digipack. There is a 36 page book of pictures of Lee Young-ae.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 May 2006, 10:36

Oh dear. I bet CD WOW were told it had English subs as they wouldn't have put it on otherwise.

What's up with the way it's been presented. It sounds like Disc 1 has DD5.1 only and Disc 2 DTS + the commentaries, with the extras being split. What a completely nonsensical way of ordering a DVD.

Hello you can fit DTS, DD5.1 + the Commentaries on Disc 1. Having the extras split is annoying when it's only been done because of the two discs have both versions.

Madman may surprise us and at the very least give us:

1. Colour
2. DD5.1
3. Extras

I can't see it being a 2 Disc version so the F2B won't appear but I reckon it will have lots/many of the extras. Madman have said before they choose extras over DTS on 1 Disc releases and we all know how few 2 Disc releases they create.

If that's the case then yep the Korean DVD is still the one to own. The 2 versions of the film are definitely more important than extras. When the UK R2 is cheap some may want to pick it up for the 42 minute director interview.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 14 May 2006, 11:43

hey,

downstep for Panorama then.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 May 2006, 12:44

Technically it's an upstep compared to the previous DVD but yeah I was hoping English subtitled extras were going to become the norm.