EvaUnit02 wrote:Big Harv also puts restrictions on established filmmakers when he's producing their films.
Eg The reason why Terry Gilliam's Brothers Grimm sucks is cuz Weinstein had him on a short leash. Honestly, who doesn't know that Gilliam is a mad genius auteur and should be left range? What a big dumb arse he is. Brothers Grimm bombed cuz word of month quickly spread that it was shit. Weinstein shot himself in the foot by holding back Gilliam and I doubt that he has learnt his lesson either.
The best story about the Weinsteins that I still love, is how they wanted the whole Lord of the Rings story in 1 two-hour movie or something.
Gawd, it's just great Jackson took his business elsewhere and scored and of the biggest, fattest money-making hits EVER!
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
thelostdragon wrote:Here are some general specs of what the new DVDs will be like:
- original and English language soundtracks
- re-mastered subtitles
- H.D. sourced 16:9 anamorphic transfers
- audio commentary tracks from Bey and a line-up of celebrity guest stars
- loads of cool extras (which are currently being put together)
Awesome, I look forward to this new label. As long as they release the original cuts of films.
LD, in which region will these DVDs be released in? North America? Worldwide?
LD, in which region will these DVDs be released in? North America? Worldwide?
Well, since it is the Weinstein company, I am pretty sure the DVDs will all be R1. meaning for North America and Canada.
do you know if the movies will be cut in any way, shape or form!?
Since Brian White is involved I honestly believe that most of the releases will be uncut, just as the vast majority of of the HKL/PA titles were. And since he is 'Director of Asian Brand Management and Post Production, I doubt that Harvey and Bob will have an influence on the cuts of the films.
Thanks LD, as Eva said, it's an interesting read.
When is Cannes, as we'll hear more about their plans then!?
I do get a bit of a bad feeling about it, with Bey being so positive about the Weinsteins while everyone knows they've been an absolute disaster for us asn movie fans, and having heard Bey talking about how cuts are appropriate in some movies for some audiences (Warrior Two spings to mind, where he said it could do without the comedy)
It's very very simple. Anything less then uncut movies, won't do.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
I remember reading somewhere that Harvey Weinstein's hubris is that he insists on having some creative imput on every film he releases - regardless of whether the film needs it or not.
bradavon wrote:
but I guess you're more intelligence than me.
Yi-Long wrote:Thanks LD, as Eva said, it's an interesting read.
When is Cannes, as we'll hear more about their plans then!?
I do get a bit of a bad feeling about it, with Bey being so positive about the Weinsteins while everyone knows they've been an absolute disaster for us asn movie fans, and having heard Bey talking about how cuts are appropriate in some movies for some audiences (Warrior Two spings to mind, where he said it could do without the comedy)
It's very very simple. Anything less then uncut movies, won't do.
Fair enough. However Bey has always said local Cantonese humor is an acquired taste, and him saying he doesnt like the comedy in WT is just his opinion
What's the name for this new label? We can't keep calling it bloody "The Weinstein's company" forever.
Remastered subs is a bit worrying, look what they did to the remastered subs on Iron Monkey adding in a whole new plot. Otherwise they look good but "Lots of extras" could mean anything. Bret Ratner and QT talking about HK cinema for hours on end anyone?
romerojpg wrote:I've never met anyone more passionate about Asian cinema than Harvey Weinstein.
Well that is accurate. Harvey Weinstein has been very passionate about making money out of Asian films for years.
Let's not forget Bey sees no problem with what Disney have done to Asian films in the past. I remember reading an interview once where he said they've bought it so they have the right to do what they want with it.
Yi-Long wrote:Thanks LD, as Eva said, it's an interesting read.
When is Cannes, as we'll hear more about their plans then!?
I do get a bit of a bad feeling about it, with Bey being so positive about the Weinsteins while everyone knows they've been an absolute disaster for us asn movie fans, and having heard Bey talking about how cuts are appropriate in some movies for some audiences (Warrior Two spings to mind, where he said it could do without the comedy)
It's very very simple. Anything less then uncut movies, won't do.
Fair enough. However Bey has always said local Cantonese humor is an acquired taste, and him saying he doesnt like the comedy in WT is just his opinion
Well... I believe he actually said HE enjoyed it, but he thinks the average western moviefan might not, so it would probably better if it would be left out...
Which makes absolutely no fucking sense to me. ou alreadu know that a 70's chop-socky movie from HK is for a certain die-hard fanbase ONLY, not for mainstream, so then it would be best to just release the best possible product for that target-audience, right!? instead of cutting it up, thus making it unappealing to all targets, including the usual fanbase.
ANyway, like I said, I'll start being optimistic once the classics are in my possesion, uncut, subbed, and with the original scores and ratios etc. I dont even care all that much about extras, but I wouldnt be surprised if Weinstein would love to ask a ridiculous amount of money from us, despite of all the love we have shown that man over the years (!)
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
Good point Yi-Long especially when you consider one comedy the mainstream western market may not like it doesn't mean they'll dislike all of it.
Have we shown Weinstein any love? Well we did all buy those QT films and many others too so yes I guess so. Agreed extras come first but no doubt they'll be spending more money on getting decent extras before a decent finished film.
bradavon wrote:Good point Yi-Long especially when you consider one comedy the mainstream western market may not like it doesn't mean they'll dislike all of it.
Sony made good money from Kung Fu Hustle internationally and it was critically acclaimed all over the place. But Sony also actually put effort into releasing the film in a reasonable time after the Asian releases (Miramaxe sat on Shaolin Soccer for so long that the fans had already imported/bootlegged the film and didn't bother with the theatrical release, which was very limited anyway.) and put some money into a decent ad campaign. Their digital painting of gore (and poop) is nothing compared to Miramaxe's hackjob of Shaolin Soccer.
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bradavon wrote:Good point Yi-Long especially when you consider one comedy the mainstream western market may not like it doesn't mean they'll dislike all of it.
But Sony made good money from Kung Fu Hustle internationally and it was critically acclaimed all over the place. But Sony also actually put effort into releasing the film in a reasonable time after the Asian releases and put some money into a decent ad campaign. Their digital painting of gore (and poop) is nothing compared to Miramaxe's hackjob of Shaolin Soccer.
...although it is still very much undesirable and a very good reason for not buying the R1.
But yeah, they did a better job then Miramax did with Shaolin Soccer.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
sony's cutting of kung fu hustle was bizarre-the movie was r-rated in it's cut form and would have got the same rating in it's uncut form,what was the point?
I heard the UK Release is also altered, no? Therefore is the only difference between the UK R2 and R3 2 Disc SE - DTS? If so I'll pick up the UK R2, it's nice and cheap now.