ichi the killer

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 13:54

im gonna go get this on dvd sometime soon

(i did have it, but i lent it to my sisters boyfriend 2 years ago and he still didnt give it back despite reminiding him every week so i figured to cut my losses and get a new dvd of it)

but anyway, what edition would you reccommend, i had the PA version but there are more versions avaliable,

i was looking at the 3 disc edition, but what about otehr releases, what would be a better one to go for?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Apr 2006, 14:11

The PA version is cut by over 3 minutes, right?

As far as I know, the dutch release is the best version available with english subs.
http://www.xploitedcinema.com/dvds/dvds.asp?title=698

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Apr 2006, 14:23

Yeah, I have that Dutch version. As far as I know, it's the one to go for.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Apr 2006, 15:14

i believe the region 1 unrated is also uncut,maybe a cheaper option than the dutch.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 15:30

ooh the cover is great!

is the HK version cut?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Apr 2006, 16:25

Shen wrote:
is the HK version cut?

about 13 minutes

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 16:49

ok, lets not go there then

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 16:54

I bought the expensive Dutch dvd set, and really I regretted it since the day I bought it

worth a few pound maybe, but not 25 quid. If they film was worthy and a great film I wouldnt have minded, but its far from special for me

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:06

hmm the dutch dvd is real nice, and i think the movie is really cool, but its expensive...

would like the uncut edition tho. looking into the us version, but also there is a 3 disc edition with the anime included...i think its an extension of the PA one since it still includes the bey logan commentary and stuff

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:08

Yes the anime edition really isnt anything apart from the UK dvd bundled together

the Dutch dvd isnt exactly great for any reason other than its uncut, great picture and sound and has english subs

so in that respect its the best version I guess

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:20

region 1 available here just over a tenner delivered.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/ ... 80-1859951

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:35

Region 1 picture quality is not as good as the Dutch R2.

I'd get that Dutch R2. I managed to trade one of my DVDs for it. One of the greatest slapstick comdies I've ever seen. Love it.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:50

The Dutch R2 has lots more extras than the R1 which only has a commentary BUT it is a Director's Commentary. That said the Dutch R2 extras amount to about an hour, the commentary is therefore actually more.

It's a pity the Bey Logan commentary isn't on the Dutch R2 as HKL gave it to their Dutch arm. I'm sure Bey saw it uncut too. It's even stranger when the 1 disc version (released later) does have said commentary.

Ouch it's still bloody expensive:

30.74€/£21 (formerly DVD Zone 2) - http://www.mediadis.com/video/detail.asp?id=122530

Clearly the Dutch R2 looks better but it is over twice the price:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompar ... killer.htm
DVD Compare: http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=2230

I'd get the R1 BUT be careful there is an Unrated and R Rated version!, the link from Salty looks to be the Uncut version. DVD Pacific also sell it for the same price. The R1 quality isn't vastly inferior at the end of the day.

Unrated Cover art:

http://www.jadeleung.com/images/screens ... 317_01.jpg

R Rated cover art:

http://www.jadeleung.com/images/screens ... 313_01.jpg

Both from HK Flix. I don't think the R Rated cut has the commentary.

Shen wrote:i think its an extension of the PA one since it still includes the bey logan commentary and stuff

It is and ergo still cut.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:39

Wonder if it's worth buying the Dutch single disc version for the commentary, despite the lack of English subs...

HungFist (if you're reading this), I'll give you a tenner for one of your custom DVD jobs. Reckon you could make it:

Uncut
DTS
English subs
Bey Logan and Miike commentary

Cheers.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:46

BiscLimpkit wrote:Wonder if it's worth buying the Dutch single disc version for the commentary, despite the lack of English subs...

Good question. It's hard to find I think. I wonder why it doesn't have English subs, very weird. That said I suspect the UK R2 PA would be cheaper and that has the commentary too. £7.99 -

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=ti ... P36=3KMXZC

However Bey is better on his own than with others. It could be a better commentary to the Director one.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:59

I actually I couldn't. The problem is the audio: DTS and Miike commentary are in NTSC, and the rest is in PAL. And Bey commentary is for the cut version. I don't really know anything about these audio things...

...and I don't own 4 dvds of Ichi

... actually I don't own a single dvd of it. But I'm planning to get the dutch version.

...but your best bet would be the japanese disc. It's uncut, most likely with a good transfer, and has both dts and miike commentary. You could probably find MB subs (both film and commentary) for it somewhere.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 19:13

I am selling mine of anyones interested

Dutch 2 dvd edition imaculate condition.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Apr 2006, 23:01

That R1's colours are all fucked up, so you should definitely go for the Dutch!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Apr 2006, 10:11

I was more concerned about the lack of sharpness but ultimately for me £21-22 is a lot of moola for one DVD.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 12 Apr 2006, 11:50

You can get it second hand for like £15.... Just have a peek on forums and stuff.

Hell I traded one of my £12 DVDs for the uncut Dutch 2 Disc SE of Ichi. Chuffed. 8)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Apr 2006, 12:55

I'd check with Romero first but if not it's £21.59 "Buy it Now" here -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 9124872258