Chen Kaige's "The Promise", kung-fu epic has opene

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Mar 2006, 23:48

Who cooked it up?

The IMDB I think.

Every single bootleg I have seen so far (I think I've seen them all) does not exceed 122 minutes.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Mar 2006, 00:53

Tom2681 wrote:The IMDB I think.

Enough said. I presume they didn't included any source or evidence? Nope I didn't think so.

Phew moving on . . .

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 15 Mar 2006, 23:35

Wu Ji has been released in France today.

So far, many people seem to have enjoyed the 102-minute version.
I think that the scene with the bulls has been cut but I'm not sure of it yet.

Ricochan38 · Post by **Ricochan38** » 16 Mar 2006, 07:35

i watched the movie and couldnt bare to see anymore after 20 minutes, and i stopped it...and sold my LE DVD.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Mar 2006, 12:37

Sorry to hear that Rico.

News about the US cut:

It would seem that the scene in which Cecilia and Nic Tse play "cat and mouse" in the birdcage is cut.
The scene in which Kunlun prepares Cecilia's bed in the farm MIGHT be cut.
Also, the scene in which Guangming is getting drunk while waiting for Cecilia to return has been removed.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Mar 2006, 15:47

Ricochan38 wrote:i watched the movie and couldnt bare to see anymore after 20 minutes, and i stopped it...and sold my LE DVD.

So you've not actually seen it then?

My Dad turned off "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" after 15 minutes saying it was rubbish. I said you CANNOT possibly know a film is rubbish after 15 minutes.

He disagreed, silly man. This is particulary when I hear from everyone it's decent.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Mar 2006, 15:54

@Brad:
I've got a friend who stopped watching OldBoy after 1 hour because he felt there were too many plotholes.
So he didn't even get to the part where Oh Deasu finds out about Mido / Learns that they were hypnotized.

Needless to say I now have one less friend.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Mar 2006, 16:05

Tom2681 wrote:I've got a friend who stopped watching OldBoy after 1 hour because he felt there were too many plotholes.

WTF???

You can't have plot holes until a film finishes, they're aspects which will probably be explained later.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Mar 2006, 16:47

Exclusive unofficial news about the non-asian edit of Wu Ji (The Promise):

I've been getting reports from several french forums.
Apparently nothing big has been cut.

Despite the fact that a total of 20 minutes are missing, it would seem that the movie has been simply "trimmed".
The scenes that were removed were small "character development" scenes and reportedly the cuts have no impact on the quality of the film.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Mar 2006, 17:50

Then I have to ask why cut them?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:08

Tom2681 wrote:
Needless to say I now have one less friend.

Christ, talk about shallow. You disown someone cuz their opinion differs to yours on one particular film.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:10

bradavon wrote:Then I have to ask why cut them?

Cuz big Harv and his brother are jealous of filmmakers, that's why they're producers.

One who can't direct, produces.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:12

You disown someone cuz their opinion differs to yours on one particular film.

I beg to differ. That guy didn't watch the movie in full and still made a negative comment about it. He has no respect for directors or their movies.
Hell I should have shot him.

Still, I have three good friends left.
But only one of them likes Casshern, so I guess I only have one real friend.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:13

EvaUnit02 wrote:
bradavon wrote:Then I have to ask why cut them?
Cuz big Harv and his brother are jealous of filmmakers, that's why they're producers.

One who can't direct, produces.

...or reviews

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:13

Tom2681 wrote:
You disown someone cuz their opinion differs to yours on one particular film.
I beg to differ. That guy didn't watch the movie in full and still made a negative comment about it. He has no respect for directors or their movies.
Hell I should have shot him.

Still, I have three good friends left.
But only one of them likes Casshern, so I guess I only have one real friend.

Must be lonely in the asylum for ya

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 19 Mar 2006, 15:02

Another scene has been cut in the US edit:
(we're getting closer to the 20-minute mark

)

When Guangming is lost in the woods at night, it would seem that the whole exchange between him and goddess Manshen has been cut (which is a shame, because it sets up the whole plot).

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 19 Mar 2006, 17:56

Interesting tidbit:

The US cut has one added scene (compared to the mainland cut)

The last shot of the movie isn't "the tree". It's QinCheng walking on water (like at the beginning of the movie).
Which indicates that she HAS gone back in time and made the same choice again. Stupid american ending.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Mar 2006, 18:27

DVD Times review is up:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=60839

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:25

This will open in German theatres in April. German title: Wu Ji - Die Reiter der Winde (Wind Riders)

http://www.wuji-film.de

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:29

German running time: 103 min.

Is this cut then? I don't think so.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:31

German running time: 103 min.

It's the american cut. Sorry LD.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:31

I'm really thinking of watching that in the theatre. I mean it's already on its way to me on DVD, but shouldn't this one also be watched on the big screen?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:33

Thanks, Tom. This lowers the percentage of me watching this at the theatre.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:33

The american edit cuts most of the important character development scenes and adds a scene at the end that closes the story instead of opening it.

My advice is:
-Go watch it at the theater for the cinematography. (if you've got a very small screen at your place)
-Watch it on DVD for the plot.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Mar 2006, 13:38

BTW, who is responsible for the American cut?