SFMV: Is the UK Making Of. decent vs. How bad is the UK PQ?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Mar 2006, 16:23

The question was supposed to be but it's to long:

"Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance: Is the UK R2 Making Of. decent vs. How bad is the UK R2 NTSC to PAL PQ?"

Right I'm trying to decide between the R1 for the NTSC picture or the UK R2 for the 30 Minute Making of.

It was supposed to be on the R1 (it's listed on the cover art) but never made it. The UK R2 has this making it on the surface better BUT it's a NTSC to PAL issue.

I say I don't generally mind these but on the other hand Dolls R1 and The Pianist Canadian R1 (to name two) are both pretty shoddy and guess what both suffer from standards conversions.

My questions are these?

1. How good is the Making Of.? Is it a watch one affair?
2. For an NTSC to PAL conversion how bad is it? Considering some are worse than others.

I reckon I'll go with the R1 to be on the safe side but just wanted to double check.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 08 Mar 2006, 03:55

You meant NTSC-to-PAL conversion for the R2UK. Hold off on getting either Brad for the time being, I'll be ordering the R1 as soon as my paycheck comes through, I'll confirm whether the "Making of" truly is on it or not. The DVDtalk dude just could've gotten an incomplete check disc.

In the mean time get R2UK Oldboy, fucking awesome film.

memetic · Post by **memetic** » 08 Mar 2006, 04:29

The R1 definitely does not have the "Making of" on it.

I've seen the R2 UK before. The PQ is pretty good, bit sharper than the usual soft NTSC converted image. I haven't watched the "Making of" but it's 30 mins long, so pretty substantial.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 08 Mar 2006, 10:10

Eastern Eye are bringing out SFMV and SFLV in 2006, both native-PAL transfers. You might want to wait and see what extras they include on the SFMV release.

source wrote:Sympathy For Lady Vengeance

Rental/Retail: Rental
Video: 16:9 Anamorphic
Transfer: Native film-PAL

Sympathy For Mr Vengeance

Rental/Retail: Retail
Video: 16:9 Anamorphic
Transfer: Native film-PAL

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 08 Mar 2006, 11:13

I have the Tartan disc and it's okayish in my opinion. Of course there are versions out there with better picture quality. I've always had the HK disc and bought the Tartan for cheap (5€) due to the making of. I think it is a very good making-of. Some people might argue that it doesn't have a lot of information, but I'm a sucker for behind-the-scenes footage and it has plenty of that. It also has on-set interviews with actors and the director.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Mar 2006, 11:21

I'm now more confused

. Thanks guys. I'll decide I think when I have to.

EvaUnit02 wrote:Eastern Eye are bringing out SFMV and SFLV in 2006, both native-PAL transfers. You might want to wait and see what extras they include on the SFMV release.

Nice one thanks. Are Madman ditching their annoying 3 month rental window?

I can wait. I'll probably pick up SFLV Korean DVD (after I've seen Oldboy) though.

I've seen the first 20 minutes (Monday) of Oldboy and plan to watch the rest tonight. I stopped it as it was late and I didn't want to watch it quietly (as in people asleep). It's excellent so far.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 08 Mar 2006, 11:44

bradavon wrote:Are Madman ditching their annoying 3 month rental window?

Doesn't look like it, if you check the upcoming EE titles in the Madman catalogue site it shows there's still some titles with rental windows. Eg Yoji Yamada's The Hidden Blade (the follow-up to The Twilight Samurai - I've seen neither film).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Mar 2006, 10:40

I've decided to get SFMV R1 while I'm sure the Making Of. is decent it's an extra and better PQ is more important. IF SFMV UK R2 was a 2 disc release I'd probably forgive the NTSC to PAL issue but we're talking one extra. Both have the commentary at the end of the day, oh and the R1 cover art is much better.

If in the unlikely event SFMV R4 turns out to be extras stacked then I'll upgrade but I suspect at best it will be will DTS with a few selective extras (probably the same as the UK R2).

I think I'll double check on the Madman forums. If it's to early to say I'll plump for the R1 I can't see the R4 coming for ages anyway.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Mar 2006, 10:45

Brad does the R1 have DTS? The R2 CE is always £15 and the price never seems to go down.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 09 Mar 2006, 11:01

grim_tales wrote:Brad does the R1 have DTS?

Yes. Try checking dvdcompare.net sometime.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Mar 2006, 11:07

grim_tales wrote:The R2 CE is always £15 and the price never seems to go down.

It was £7.99 in the Play sale. The R1 and UK R2 are identical except for:

1. The UK R2 has an extra 30 minute Making Of.
2. The UK R2 suffers from NTSC to PAL
3. The R1 cover art is much better

Both have the Commentary and DTS.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Mar 2006, 11:40

EvaUnit02 wrote:
grim_tales wrote:Brad does the R1 have DTS?
Yes. Try checking dvdcompare.net sometime.

Thanks

I just did and you're right

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Mar 2006, 11:41

Thanks again Brad.
I'll get whichever is cheapest I think, I'm not as picky as some of you guys so I doubt I'd notice the NTSC-PAL thing.
Woah you're right the R1 art is sooo much nicer

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Mar 2006, 12:07

grim_tales wrote:I'll get whichever is cheapest I think, I'm not as picky as some of you guys so I doubt I'd notice the NTSC-PAL thing.

I'm as fussy as you but a 32" LCD makes you fussier, oh and the R1 is £5 cheaper anyway from DVD Pacific.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Mar 2006, 12:14

OK will order from them at some point, thanks

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Apr 2006, 17:54

He he guys eat my shorts a Tartan DVD easily beating a Korean DVD

:

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/sy ... eance.html

The Korean DVD looks a mess!

Unless Madman R4 pull a trump card the R1 is the clear winner. Did I say it's a Tartan DVD?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Apr 2006, 18:10

Looks like they used the french print as base.
A very good transfer (despite the excessive edge enhancement).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Apr 2006, 19:15

I find that hard to believe unless the French print is also NTSC to PAL (which I doubt).

Why buy a new print when you already own an NTSC print? The UK DVD is clearly from said NTSC print.