Jet Li's Fearless (Huo Yuan Jia)

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 28 Feb 2006, 22:04

Actually I knew this was going to happen, but I just didn't want to admit it.
Ronny Yu did say that there wouldn't be subs.

The western distributor is called "Rogue Pictures". I don't know much about them.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 Feb 2006, 22:36

They sound aptly named... :x

Why did the news story say there would be English subs???

[British mode]Cunts!![/British mode off]

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Feb 2006, 22:37

Tom2681 wrote:Actually I knew this was going to happen, but I just didn't want to admit it.
Ronny Yu did say that there wouldn't be subs.

When did you hear that?

Tom2681 wrote: The western distributor is called "Rogue Pictures". I don't know much about them.

I've heard of them. They're owned by some bigger label I'm sure.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 28 Feb 2006, 22:58

When did you hear that?

I can't remember exactly. I'll try to find the link.

I've heard of them. They're owned by some bigger label I'm sure.

Possibly Buena Vista.
EDIT: Nope, it's Universal.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Feb 2006, 23:17

And they're the distributor for all the Western countries? (i.e - Europe, North America and Australasia?)

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 28 Feb 2006, 23:19

Distributors:
Rogue Pictures (2006) (USA) (theatrical)
Buena Vista International (2006) (Singapore) (theatrical)
Columbia Pictures (2006) (Philippines) (theatrical)
United International Pictures (UIP) (2006) (France) (theatrical)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Feb 2006, 23:32

Fingers crossed not the UK or Australia then. As they're the USA distributor I'm guessing they are the DVD one too.

Still it's better than Disney getting hold of it.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 01 Mar 2006, 00:47

SO... since the HK DVD wont have subs, and it will be way too long before an western release, which will be the CUT version as well... I'll just be downloading this movie. Fuck them.
I'll even make a picture of the burned DVD in my hand and send it to Jet Li, Ronnie Yu, and who-ever holds the right to this movie in the west, with the message I'll copy it to share with all my friends as well.

If they cant fucking release a DVD as it should be released (uncut, subbed): BIG 'FUCK YOU' TO THEM!

There really should be a law against this. So many movies get so many different releases, and we, the customers, are more often then not, SCREWED, if we just want an uncut and subbed version.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 01 Mar 2006, 00:54

Actually I think they did this to fight piracy.
They don't want english-speaking people to buy the DVD before it comes out in the US.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 01 Mar 2006, 01:07

Tom2681 wrote:Actually I think they did this to fight piracy.
They don't want english-speaking people to buy the DVD before it comes out in the US.

I'm sure it is, but it just makes ME, who hardly EVER downloads a movie, want to download it, instead of buying it legally.
If they would have just released it decently, I would have given them the cash no problem, but since they cant do that, I cant pay them either.
I'm not gonna wait 7-8 months for a CUT, AMERICAN version of a good movie. Cause I BET they're gonna fuck with it a bit more...
Probably digitally remove Jet Li's ponytail...

12 years after Fist of Legend and Drunken Master 2, 2 of the greatest MA movies EVER, and we still dont have a decent DVD release for either.

They are taking us for fools.

We, the fanbase, should make a definite stand against this crap. Threaten with a boycot or threaten to only download the movies untill they'll release these movies uncut etc. That's the ONLY way they might ever listen.
I've fucking had enough of this shit.
Every time asia makes a good movie, some western top-bananabonzo steps in, buys the rights, demands cuts and versions without subs etc, and these asian pussies roll over and let them fuck over their movies, and see them flop.

It's been this way ever since the Kurosawa flicks.
It needs to be stopped.

We SHOULD form 1 front against this. The WHOLE asian fanbase community... but ofcourse there will just be many people who say it's no use etc. Maybe it isnt, but doing absolutely NOTHING against this shit isnt gonna help matters either.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 01 Mar 2006, 15:31

Constantin has the rights for Germany (I guess Switzerland and Austria as well) and the current official German theatrical release date is December 12th. :twisted:

Just like with "Hero" and "House of Flying Daggers"... the only difference is that this time it is likely that I won't be owning the DVD before the German release date. Fuck 'em who decided not to use English subs. Will download fansubs then.

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 01 Mar 2006, 17:24

the worst thing about not having subtitles on Hong Kong version is it means that they don't have to put the same effort into the AV presentation, because whereas before we would have seen a full bit rate DTS with excellent picture. the respective Western releases would have had to have been of higher quality than normal or people would just say f*ck it I'll just get the region 3.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Mar 2006, 18:36

I only have a parsing interesting in AV quality when I'll never be buying it anyway.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 01 Mar 2006, 19:43

sky75 wrote:the worst thing about not having subtitles on Hong Kong version is it means that they don't have to put the same effort into the AV presentation, because whereas before we would have seen a full bit rate DTS with excellent picture. the respective Western releases would have had to have been of higher quality than normal or people would just say f*ck it I'll just get the region 3.

I'm sure they aren't thinking that way at all. Most of their customers are not familiar with importing DVDs and that there are other films in this world apart from those that are released in their local HMV.

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 02 Mar 2006, 17:36

I thought for a second you guys were wrong having just seen fearless in CD wow but alas no English subtitles. To be honest I'm surprised they even have it on their site, I thought CD wow was ashamed that the UK/US market?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Mar 2006, 17:42

They also have a HK site Sky.

They had a few non-English subtitled DVDs before.

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 03 Mar 2006, 13:17

oh I didn't realise that. Still doesn't it seem strange to put non English subtitled foreign language films on a site aimed at the English-speaking market?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 03 Mar 2006, 13:49

When cd-wow ordered those DVDs, they probably didn't know that there wouldn't be english subs.
They're just as screwed as we are.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Mar 2006, 14:04

I suspect Tom is right CD WOW often jump on highly anticipated DVDs.

I wonder how many Chinese and Hong Kongese people use CD WOW.hk?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 03 Mar 2006, 16:07

Would you guys fancy a glass that's half-full ?

http://www.sensasian.com/view/product.c ... /fearless/

-Extended cut of Fearless (told ya

).
-March 11th.
-No english subs (boo ! :x ).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Mar 2006, 16:23

It's Hero all over again

. Come on 2008-2009 when Fearless: DC HK DVD will finally arive

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:20

Well at least we got subs with Hero.

I can't believe an HK dvd company is doing this with an HK movie.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:32

Daniel wrote:Well at least we got subs with Hero.

True good point. Now I'm even angrier thanks

p.s - Welcome to Bullets btw.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Mar 2006, 14:11

I'm not sure that Fearless will ever be released in the West.

Jet Li, Ronny Yu and screenwriter Wang Bin are facing a huge lawsuit.
Huo Shoujin (Huo Yuan-Jia's grandson) is really unhappy with Jet's portrayal of his grandfather.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 10 Mar 2006, 14:16

LOL! Really? Well, Constantin have already bought the film. It will get released in Germany.

Hey, why is he unhappy. I'm sure his grandfather is portrayed as a double-hard bastard. Man, the trailer showed him training under-water.