The Alien movies.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 24 Jan 2006, 01:46

...Ok... got these 4 movies a while back as a parting goft from the guys at my internship. Over the last couple of months I've seen pt 1 and 2, so I was planning on giving pt. 3 a try soon, but I just found out there are 2 versions. One is the 110 minute version, which I have on DVD (single disc edition) but there's also a 145 min (2003 Special 'Assembly Cut' Edition) version.

Now, should I just bin the version I have, and buy the 145 minute version? Is it better? Or are both versions worth watching?
Cause if the 145 minute version is much better, I'd rather not waste my time on the 110 minute version...

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Jan 2006, 01:55

I have only seen the 110 minute version and I liked it... but that was when I was like 10 years old or so. Haven't watched it again since. Bought part 2 recently as it is the best in my opinion.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Jan 2006, 04:50

The 110m version was the theatrical release taken away from the director after a very troubled shoot. I think the 145m version is some sort of attempt to get the film to Fincher's original vision - if not a full blown dir's cut. I don't know I haven't seen that edit myself. There's bound to be lots of discussion and comparison on this from fans if you do a search.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Jan 2006, 04:53

This link might help:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103644/alternateversions

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Jan 2006, 11:45

Definately watch the 2003 (145m) extended cut. The film is FAR more coherent.

Markgway wrote:I think the 145m version is some sort of attempt to get the film to Fincher's original vision - if not a full blown dir's cut.

It's actually a workprint. It would be impossible to create DC, Fincher said that he'd have to remake the entire film in order to do it.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 24 Jan 2006, 11:58

Markgway wrote:This link might help:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103644/alternateversions

Thanks Mark

I had already checked that cause I hoped that would give me some info as to what versions were available, and which one I had etc...

Eva: thanks... seems like I'm better off getting the longer version...

This is exactly the reason why I think movies shouldnt be cut. Now I need to spend extra cash on a movie I already have.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Jan 2006, 13:12

Yi-Long wrote:Now I need to spend extra cash on a movie I already have.

You mean they didn't give you the SE's, but the old DVDs? Some friends they are.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 24 Jan 2006, 13:26

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:Now I need to spend extra cash on a movie I already have.
You mean they didn't give you the SE's, but the old DVDs? Some friends they are.

Hehehe, yeah... I guess they couldnt even spare a meagre 60 euro on me... cheap bastards

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 26 Jan 2006, 13:18

I haven't seen the extended version of Alien 3 yet although I have heard it's much better. Although I have recently watched alien the directors cut and have to say I prefer the original theatrical version.

I don't know if it's still available or even if www.sendit.com ships to Europe but I read on another website they had Alien 3 special edition (2 DVD) for £3.99.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Jan 2006, 14:23

I prefer the original '79 TC too and so does Ridley Scott.

EvaUnit02 wrote:NO, the '79 threatrical cut is Scott's prefered version of Alien. Fox just labelled the 2003 alternative cut as "DC" as marketing move. Watch Scott's introduction on the 2-disc SE (from the Quadrilogy) if you're still not convinced.

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 26 Jan 2006, 14:28

EvaUnit02 wrote:I prefer the original '79 TC too and so does Ridley Scott.
EvaUnit02 wrote:NO, the '79 threatrical cut is Scott's prefered version of Alien. Fox just labelled the 2003 alternative cut as "DC" as marketing move. Watch Scott's introduction on the 2-disc SE (from the Quadrilogy) if you're still not convinced.

I didn't realise that it was just a marketing idea. From his introduction I assumed it was a bona fide directors' cuts that he wanted to do.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 26 Jan 2006, 14:48

About Alien 3:

I've recently seen the DC and I gotta say that it's a much better film than the TC.

It removes the scenes with the dog and adds lots of character development.
By the end of the DC, you actually care about the characters (you just barely know them in the TC).

My only gripe with the DC is sound-related. Apparently the actors only ADR'd the TC, not the DC. Which means that whenever you get into an added scene, the voices become muffled and there's a lot of background noise.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 26 Jan 2006, 17:32

Both versions of Alien 3 are worth seeing 8) I saw it in the cinema, was exciting back then.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 26 Jan 2006, 22:11

Cyncial marketing by Hollywood? Surely not?

The Frighteners Director's Cut, er isn't, as Jackson himself states the theatrical cut is HIS driector's cut, and that the "director's cut" is merely "his fun cut".

But I guess for Universal to put out THE FRIGHTENERS - THE FUN CUT would be asking too much??

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 30 Jan 2006, 13:13

Markgway wrote:Cyncial marketing by Hollywood? Surely not?

The Frighteners Director's Cut, er isn't, as Jackson himself states the theatrical cut is HIS driector's cut, and that the "director's cut" is merely "his fun cut".

But I guess for Universal to put out THE FRIGHTENERS - THE FUN CUT would be asking too much??

I really thought I was quite cynical by nature but I always thought a directors cut was made by the director because they were not completely happy with the theatrical release.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 30 Jan 2006, 14:56

really thought I was quite cynical by nature but I always thought a directors cut was made by the director because they were not completely happy with the theatrical release.

Ah, that's just naive! 8)

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 31 Jan 2006, 14:37

Markgway wrote:
really thought I was quite cynical by nature but I always thought a directors cut was made by the director because they were not completely happy with the theatrical release.
Ah, that's just naive! 8)

apparently so