Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
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thelostdragon
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Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
Park Chan-wook's latest film after "OldBoy" and "Cut". It's the last part of his revenge-trilogy. Check it out:
http://home.arcor.de/merdalf/LadyVengenceTeaser.asf
Translation:
Woman 1: (inaudible)
Probably:"Why do you wear that bloody red eye shadow?"
Lady Vengeance: Because I might look too kind........
Title: Kind Ms. Kim-ja
Woman 1: Did you find that guy?
Lady Vengeance: Yeah.
Woman 1: Did you kill him?
Lady Vengeance: Not yet.
Woman 1: Why?
Lady Vengeance: I was too busy.
(montage of clips)
Woman 1: Like saving a dessert for the very end, is that the idea?
Lady Vengeance: Yeah.
http://home.arcor.de/merdalf/LadyVengenceTeaser.asf
Translation:
Woman 1: (inaudible)
Probably:"Why do you wear that bloody red eye shadow?"
Lady Vengeance: Because I might look too kind........
Title: Kind Ms. Kim-ja
Woman 1: Did you find that guy?
Lady Vengeance: Yeah.
Woman 1: Did you kill him?
Lady Vengeance: Not yet.
Woman 1: Why?
Lady Vengeance: I was too busy.
(montage of clips)
Woman 1: Like saving a dessert for the very end, is that the idea?
Lady Vengeance: Yeah.
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Anybody seen Lee Young-ae's Korean TV series that's supposed to be so popular in Hong Kong right now? Just curious to know if it's any good, since she really hasn't done much, even though what she has done has been critically acclaimed.
My favorite Hong Kong screen villain? www.yuenwah.com
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http://www.filmacco.com/content/view/299//According to LeeYoungAe, SYMPATHY FOR LADY VENGEANCE is being produced in black-and-white and color versions, drawing attention to which version will be shown in theaters. Park had originally planned to gradually desaturate the film over time through digital editing, making it completely black-and-white by the end of the movie.
But when the shoot was finished, he actually liked the color of the film a lot, and it seemed like a waste to throw it away. Unable to make up his mind, he decided to keep working on both versions, one being the original version that loses its color toward the end, and the other being the version that wholly maintains the rich color of the original film.
According to an associate of the film company, "currently post-production is under way for both versions, but it hasn't been decided which version, or whether both, will be screened in theaters." It's also possible that one will be shown in theaters, while the other will only be included on DVD.
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As previously reported, Park Chan-Wook was deciding whether to show only the full palette version of 친절한 금자씨 (Sympathy For Lady Vengeance), or both versions. Park and production company Moho Film have finally decided, both versions will be shown.
While the vast majority of prints will feature the full colour version, a "Digital" version will show at DLP-equipped CGV Multiplexes in Yongsan, Gangbyeon and Guro.
This version of the film will gradually fade from full colour to black and white starting from the middle portion, using the Digital Intermediate technology.
http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/002902.html#more
Also, it's up for pre-order:
http://www.dvdfromkorea.com/shop/p_deta ... enre=Drama
But what a brilliant idea. I hope that both versions will be present on the DVD.
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tom2681
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I prefer the coloured version.
That's the version I saw at the cinema and I loved it.
+ I think that Young-Ae's red make-up wouldn't work in Black and White.
That's the version I saw at the cinema and I loved it.
+ I think that Young-Ae's red make-up wouldn't work in Black and White.
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
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Now that I think about it, all the prison flashbacks at the beginning have a lot of colour.
Then, in the second part of the movie, colours become secondary. The finale with the falling snow would look awesome in black and white.
Then, in the second part of the movie, colours become secondary. The finale with the falling snow would look awesome in black and white.
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
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Quite possibly. To me, the scene with the snow was the most powerful visually and very "noir" already. I think it would be unnecessary to make this scene black & white and would subtract from what it has achieved in all its colourful and yet still noir glory.
The whole black & white idea seems to be something Chan-wook simply wanted to try. I can't really see it particularly working with this film in any sort of poetic way. It seems strange to apply a linear effect to a film that is quite clearly non-linear in its editing and storytelling. But maybe that's just me.
The whole black & white idea seems to be something Chan-wook simply wanted to try. I can't really see it particularly working with this film in any sort of poetic way. It seems strange to apply a linear effect to a film that is quite clearly non-linear in its editing and storytelling. But maybe that's just me.
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Korean DVD specs:
Special Features:
DISC 1: Colored Version
- Commentary by Director, Cinematographer and Production Designer
- Commentary by Director and Lee Young-Ae
- DD 5.1, DD 2.0 Audio
- Making of Film
- Deleted Scenes
DISC 2: Gradually Fade to Black & White Version
- Commentary by Korean Critic
- Commentary by Overseas Critic
- DTS Audio
- Short Film by Young Director
8) 8)
Basically Mr Park is saying that he prefers the B&W version (hence the DTS track).
Special Features:
DISC 1: Colored Version
- Commentary by Director, Cinematographer and Production Designer
- Commentary by Director and Lee Young-Ae
- DD 5.1, DD 2.0 Audio
- Making of Film
- Deleted Scenes
DISC 2: Gradually Fade to Black & White Version
- Commentary by Korean Critic
- Commentary by Overseas Critic
- DTS Audio
- Short Film by Young Director
8) 8)
Basically Mr Park is saying that he prefers the B&W version (hence the DTS track).
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
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thelostdragon
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Wouldn't necessarily say so as disc one also features the making of and the special features. And it also features his commentary. I guess if he preferred the b&w version, his commentary would be on the second disc. But then again we can only speculate. My personal opinion is that he can't decide which is the better version and hence he released both of them.
It's cool that there is also a commentary from an overseas critic. Hope it's in English.
It's cool that there is also a commentary from an overseas critic. Hope it's in English.
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tom2681
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I think I'm gonna buy this edition just to compare the two versions.
Then I'll buy the UK version for the subtitled extras.
Then I'll buy the French version for optimal video+audio+subtitles quality.
Then I'll buy the UK version for the subtitled extras.
Then I'll buy the French version for optimal video+audio+subtitles quality.
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
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tom2681
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Very very very much.
It's a perfect mixture of:
-Sympathy for Mr Vengeance-style editing and pacing.
-OldBoy-style flashbacks.
When you add a myriad of actors who have worked on Park's previous film and an awesome OST, you get something that's very close to cinematic perfection IMO.
Just talking about it makes me want to see it again.
*Checking*
Yep, it's still showing at my favourite theater...Now I know what to do tomorrow. :mrgreen:
It's a perfect mixture of:
-Sympathy for Mr Vengeance-style editing and pacing.
-OldBoy-style flashbacks.
When you add a myriad of actors who have worked on Park's previous film and an awesome OST, you get something that's very close to cinematic perfection IMO.
Just talking about it makes me want to see it again.
*Checking*
Yep, it's still showing at my favourite theater...Now I know what to do tomorrow. :mrgreen:
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
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Phew and I thought I was the only one who was confused by these cuts. How was it shown in cinemas?
I'll wait for the Tartan UK DVD I think. I've not seen the first two installments yet and besides the Tartan DVD is bound have decent extras, DTS + PQ fine for me.
Surely the French version will have subtitled extras?
Was the coloured version a studio cut?
What cut is the forthcoming (bare-bones + DTS) HK DVD getting? I'm guessing the B&W version???
I'll wait for the Tartan UK DVD I think. I've not seen the first two installments yet and besides the Tartan DVD is bound have decent extras, DTS + PQ fine for me.
There's no guarantee both will have subs though.Tom2681 wrote:I think I'm gonna buy this edition just to compare the two versions.
There's no guarantee of that some of Tartan's DVDs are gorgeous. Just look at ATOTS, Old Boy and 2046 8)Tom2681 wrote: Then I'll buy the UK version for the subtitled extras.
Then I'll buy the French version for optimal video+audio+subtitles quality.
Surely the French version will have subtitled extras?
Then why on earth did he record a commentary track for the inferior but not superior version?Tom2681 wrote:Basically Mr Park is saying that he prefers the B&W version (hence the DTS track).
Was the coloured version a studio cut?
What cut is the forthcoming (bare-bones + DTS) HK DVD getting? I'm guessing the B&W version???
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Tartan UK R2 details are up:
* Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation
* DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround
* Tartan exclusive interview with Park Chan-wook
* Trailer
Cover art:
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?c ... 60619#7930
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Shame Tartan are no longer doing 2 disc releases (it seems). I guess it wasn't fruitful enough.
Why the pointless retitle? Nice cover art though.
I was going to get this but as it only has one extra which is probably no more than 20 minutes I'll get the Korean DVD. It does have two versions of the film after all.
The Korean 2 Discer isn't an LE right?
* Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation
* DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround
* Tartan exclusive interview with Park Chan-wook
* Trailer
Cover art:
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?c ... 60619#7930
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Shame Tartan are no longer doing 2 disc releases (it seems). I guess it wasn't fruitful enough.
Why the pointless retitle? Nice cover art though.
I was going to get this but as it only has one extra which is probably no more than 20 minutes I'll get the Korean DVD. It does have two versions of the film after all.
The Korean 2 Discer isn't an LE right?
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Lady Vengeance is the french title.
Tartan are using the french cover as well. :scratch:
http://www.dvdasian.com/cgi-bin/dvdasian/20397.html
Tartan are using the french cover as well. :scratch:
Sure it is.The Korean 2 Discer isn't an LE right?
http://www.dvdasian.com/cgi-bin/dvdasian/20397.html
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
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Fingers crossed that will mean decent AV then.Tom2681 wrote:Lady Vengeance is the french title.
Tartan are using the french cover as well. :scratch:
Thanks.
Is that the only source you could find? I ask as it doesn't look like a LE. There are many standard 2 disc releases like that in Korea. It says SE on the cover.
I ask as I'm in no particular rush to get it but as the Tartan DVD isn't going to come close I'd quite fancy it.
I need to watch my Oldboy first.
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