Well The Dragon seems to have answered for me... but I enjoy Jackie Chan movies for their comedy and entertainment value. Sure some of his fights are fun, but what makes them fun isn't the fighting - but the settings and Jackie interacts with them. To me "Who Am I?" is a classic Jackie Chan movie...
Just like Tony Jaa did in OngBak - a classic "ripoff" if I ever saw one
If I want fighting I go with the UFC or something...
All this may explain why I enjoyed Rush Hour (while so many "HK/Chan fans" seems to hate it)... though I didn't get into Rush Hour 2 at all... :-/
It makes me laugh when Bey Logan says that he skips forward when there's comedy in a Jackie Chan movie because he wants to get to the fight.
I would do the exact opposite. I watch JC movies for the comedy and the characters, not the action.
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
I watch Jackie films for all that there is. His unique brand of comedy and action are equally enjoyable to me. However for me NPS wasn't funny, wasn't dramatic, and the stunts were by the numbers. My point is that the only highlight was the fight between Jackie and Andy On. That bit showed that Jackie still had some of the old magic. And I also liked Who Am I? But didn't think TOO much of the Rush Hour movies. I didn't hate them though like some.
I found NPS very funny. It was indeed a drama, but I think it managed to mix the heavy drama with good comedy. The only negative aspect is in my opinion, that Jackie cries too much. The first time he does that in the movie, I thought that it was cool to see a different Jackie for once. However, every ten minutes he started crying and I was like, 'OK, Jackie, I swear I know you are a good actor!'
Also, when I saw it at the premier, the whole audience was laughing at the jokes in the film (mostly coming from Nic Tse's character). The film even had a scene where I experienced the audience laugh as loudly as I had ever heard it before in any other film. It was the scene when Jackie and Nic escape from prison and the cops just let them pass, acting like they didn't notice them.
Stupid fucking moronic cunts who don't even know how to do some decent DVD authoring !!!
Why did they have to put the outtakes on a separate disc ?!!! (I'm talking about the 3-Disc edition)
Took me 3 hours to re-author the DVD and reintegrate them into the movie !
Do they know how much a DVD+R DL disc costs nowadays ?!
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I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
thelostdragon wrote:The film even had a scene where I experienced the audience laugh as loudly as I had ever heard it before in any other film. It was the scene when Jackie and Nic escape from prison and the cops just let them pass, acting like they didn't notice them.
HK audiences are very easily pleased. But I smiled. I just didn't laugh much. And I found Nic Tse - who's been good in other movies - ineffectual and bland here. And why exactly was Charlene Choi in this movie?
thelostdragon wrote:The film even had a scene where I experienced the audience laugh as loudly as I had ever heard it before in any other film. It was the scene when Jackie and Nic escape from prison and the cops just let them pass, acting like they didn't notice them.
HK audiences are very easily pleased. But I smiled. I just didn't laugh much. And I found Nic Tse - who's been good in other movies - ineffectual and bland here. And why exactly was Charlene Choi in this movie?
I wasn't at the HK premier. LOL, good you know that HK audiences are very easily pleased. Didn't know that.
Whats the original language on The Myth?
I thought it was Cantonese, but when I watched one of the period sections the other day (at the beginning) it sounded like Jackie and the other characters were speaking Mandarin
In the contemporary scenes, it is Cantonese, because Jackie's modern days character is from HK.
The period scenes were filmed in Mandarin, because they take place in Mainland China.
thelostdragon wrote:LOL, good you know that HK audiences are very easily pleased. Didn't know that.
You obviously haven't seen that many HK comedies have you? They like films very simple and obvious. Mugging and cheese is an added bonus. That's why when you see a great dramatic actor like Chow Yun Fat in a comedy the result is hideously painful.
Anyway, I was talking about the German premier.
OK. Easily pleased in Germany too if you insist. I didn't hate the film. It had moments. But only one standout scene which is way below par for Jackie. Just my opinion.
Markgway wrote:You obviously haven't seen that many HK comedies have you?
Why is that obvious? Just because I enjoy them and you don't or let's say because I enjoy them more than you obviously?
They like films very simple and obvious.
I think this phenomenom is not to be limited onto the HK audience, as this applies to the global mainstream audience in my opinion.
Mugging and cheese is an added bonus. That's why when you see a great dramatic actor like Chow Yun Fat in a comedy the result is hideously painful.
I don't think so. I have seen quite a few Chow Yun-fat comedies and most of them were funny in my opinion. My favourite one probably being "Diary of a Big Man".
Anyway, I was talking about the German premier.
OK. Easily pleased in Germany too if you insist. I didn't hate the film. It had moments. But only one standout scene which is way below par for Jackie. Just my opinion.
LOL, funny how you're judging whole groups of being easily pleased. It's as if I said you are extremely hard to please. Just MY opinion.
I don't friggin "replay" "slo-mo" bits of movies. That's like my friend when we were 10 fast-forwarding through the "plot" of Spencer/Hill movies just to watch the fun fights.
I watch movies... Not bits of movies.
So, are we inreality talking about an age difference of the BnB members here?
grim_tales wrote:Mark CYF was best known for romantic comedies before taking on more dramatic roles (ie the John Woo movies)
Chow's breakthrough was a TVB serial-drama entitled THE BUND which was so popular it was given a theatrical release as two movies. This was many years before ABT. Before that he did some romance/softcore movies but I haven't seen any of them (and have no wish to either).
thelostdragon wrote:Why is that obvious? Just because I enjoy them and you don't or let's say because I enjoy them more than you obviously?
There was a smiley face at the end of my paragraph. Don't go being cheeky.
I think this phenomenom is not to be limited onto the HK audience, as this applies to the global mainstream audience in my opinion.
That's true. I mean The Dukes of Hazzard anyone? The trailer for that cheese was enough for me to lose a few I.Q points. But I think HK audiences are particularly prone to - how shall I say? - unchallenging movies that tend to make most Hollywood blockbusters look complex by comparison. That's part of the reason why most HK films would bellyflop Internationally and only the likes of Jackie and Jet get major releases.
I don't think so. I have seen quite a few Chow Yun-fat comedies and most of them were funny in my opinion. My favourite one probably being "Diary of a Big Man".
Funnily enough that's the only one offhand I haven't seen! Have you seen The Eighth Happiness or The Greatest Lover? Abysmal films, abysmal performances from Chow. IMO he's one of the worst comic actors I've ever seen. I'd rather watch Chow Sing Chi read the phone book!
Anyway, I was talking about the German premier.
LOL, funny how you're judging whole groups of being easily pleased. It's as if I said you are extremely hard to please. Just MY opinion.
It was a fucking joke!! But seriously I AM notoriously hard to please. I never used to be as bad as this but the more movies I watch the tougher I get. It's the critic in me.
The Myth arrived this morning. I skipped through the DVD to check out what people were complaining about, about the aspect ratio being squashed on the period scenes - it's not that noticeable, but can anyone confirm to me if this is how the film was meant to be? I look forward to watching the film later.
Are you sure you mean CYF starred in softcore movies, Mark? What steamy CAY III stuff is this then?
Never heard of THE BUND, BTW - I havent seen EIGHTH HAPPINESS etc, either
I just watched The Myth and it was enjoyable - the usual Stanley Tong-type Jackie Chan film, which is a good thing! The negative reviews are unfair in my opinion. The only thing I wasn't keen on were the scenes set in the past, because things like that bore me! And yes, the aspect ratio thing is deliberate - it only squashes for Jackie Chan in the past; I imagine this is to represent his past-self in the dream.
