What general film/series have you just seen.. marks out of 5

[Yi-Long]

No intention of watching the movie anyway, but damn, those are some lame-ass arguments against it. What a douche.

[gasteropod]

Whiteout: 1.5/5

[Markgway]

I don't know if Kermode is overegging the pudding here, but I'm sure he's right about the film being shit. And he's got a fair point about the term 'clusterfuck' being used in a kids' movie.

The Wanderers **½

Nostalgiac drama about an NYC-Italian gang who enjoy nothing more than fucking and fighting...
Great soundtrack; uneven movie.

[gasteropod]

Nikita: 4.5/5

[gasteropod]

The Bird with the Crystal Plumage: 4/5

[luckystars]

And he's got a fair point about the term 'clusterfuck' being used in a kids' movie.

It's nothing new though, something for the adults to laugh at that goes over the kids heads.
Personally I'd be more worried about people taking infants to films like Dark Knight, rather than implied swearing thats just that...implied.

[Markgway]

It's nothing new though, something for the adults to laugh at that goes over the kids heads.

I don't think most parents would agree... but I could be wrong.

Besides I've never subscribed to the 'it's OK to include if kids probably won't understand it'.
An 8-year-old likely wouldn't understand what words like 'cunt' or 'cocksucker' mean either - does that mean it's fine for kids to hear them regardless? Remember these films are 12A not 12 and a fair percentage of viewers are under that suggested age.

I'm not for censoring adults - never have been - but I do believe children shouldn't be exposed to too much too adult too soon.

Personally I'd be more worried about people taking infants to films like Dark Knight, rather than implied swearing thats just that...implied.

Clearly The Dark Knight should've been a '15' and the BBFC were pandering to a major studio. Everyone knows it, only the censors refuse to admit it.

And I wouldn't call 'clusterfuck' implied swearing. It's actual swearing.

[Markgway]

Saturday Night Fever **½

Great soundtrack; OK movie.

[luckystars]

And I wouldn't call 'clusterfuck' implied swearing. It's actual swearing.

Nonono. The scene ends with the robot saying "what a total cluster-"CUT.

Kermodes condemning Bay for using the word thats half 'off camera'.

[Markgway]

I see. Kermode gave the impression the whole word was said. And the BBFC make reference to 'one use of strong language'.

"The Guidelines at '12A'/'12' also state 'The use of strong language (for example, 'fuck') must be infrequent'. There is a single use of strong language, which is uttered as an exclamation rather than in a directed or aggressive manner."

So this is incorrect?

"TRANSFORMERS – DARK OF THE MOON also contains some moderate language (eg 'bitch', 'dickhead', 'wanker') and some mild sex references."

Even those profanities aren't suitable for a kids movie.

[luckystars]

I'll let you know once I've seen it.

[luckystars]

Oops double post.

[Markgway]

Nonono. The scene ends with the robot saying "what a total cluster-"CUT.

Kermodes condemning Bay for using the word thats half 'off camera'.

I'll let you know once I've seen it.

If you haven't seen the film how do you know what's in it?

[luckystars]

Nonono. The scene ends with the robot saying "what a total cluster-"CUT.

Kermodes condemning Bay for using the word thats half 'off camera'.

I'll let you know once I've seen it.

If you haven't seen the film how do you know what's in it?

I listened to Kermodes review and I'm commenting on what he objected to.

[Markgway]

I listened to Kermodes review and I'm commenting on what he objected to.

I'm getting dim here... Kermode said the film uses the term 'clusterfuck'.

You said it didn't... but now you're saying you haven't seen the film and are only going by what Kermode said.

Me confused...?

[luckystars]

I listened to Kermodes review and I'm commenting on what he objected to.

I'm getting dim here... Kermode said the film uses the term 'clusterfuck'.

You said it didn't... but now you're saying you haven't seen the film and are only going by what Kermode said.

Me confused...?

Listen again, he says
"There is a moment in the film when one of the robots says this is a total cluster...and then it cuts"

He then objects to the meaning of the full implied word.

[HungFist]

Blow Out (USA, 1981) – 4/5
Rather excellent reworking on Antonioni’s Blow-Up, with only the basic idea borrowed from the fore mentioned. Travolta is rather good in the lead role, supported by engaging screenplay, compensating for Nancy Allen’s occasional irritatingness. Director De Palma plays with cinemas "rules", with makes the film feel a bit rough at times, but no doubt leaves a lot to be discored on repeated viewings.

Il Ritorno di Ringo (Italy, 1965) – 3/5
A semi-sequel to Una pistol per Ringo, and an entertaining spaghetti western that doesn’t reveal all it cards too fast. It’s very much a genre film, from nasty villains to mysterious strangers and windy streets, but the storyline holds well enough and Giuliano Gemma makes a strong lead. Morricone’s excellent soundtrack has later been borrowed by Tarantino.

[grim_tales]

Kung Fu Panda 2: 4/5
Some beautiful animation in this, once again the main storyline is very much like a kung fu movie, and the backstory is even quite sad in places

[Markgway]

Listen again, he says
"There is a moment in the film when one of the robots says this is a total cluster...and then it cuts"

He then objects to the meaning of the full implied word.

I see. I guess I misheard him then. But the BBFC still list one use of strong language so there surely must be a 'fuck' in there somewhere? lol

[saltysam]

The Passage 2/5 Trashy,lurid,sloppily edited late 70's thriller with a decent cast on paper going through the motions. Anthony Quinn is a basque farmer given the task of guiding James Mason & his family across the Pyrenees with a bonkers SS Officer played by Malcolm McDowell in hot pursuit. Mason sleepwalks through his role and McDowell is at his hammy best (or worst) violent and nasty with a truly misogynistic sequence involving McDowell & The lovely Kay Lenz.nice to finally catch this in widescreen though.

[gasteropod]

Æon Flux - 1/5

[Keung]

Collateral 2/5

Public Enemies 1/5
Boring. High definition for a period film? Didn't like it.

[gasteropod]

Collateral 2/5

Public Enemies 1/5
Boring. High definition for a period film? Didn't like it.

Another member left cold by Michael Mann

[Markgway]

After.Life *½

Creepy, but senseless, undistinguished horror pic.
Christina Ricci makes a very sexy corpse though.

[gasteropod]

Sunshine: 3/5