Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 05 Mar 2011, 19:38

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8809/web6s.png

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7547/web4t.png

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3978/web3.png

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http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7466/web5p.png

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3742/web1.png

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 05 Mar 2011, 20:43

Sam's back with screencaps. Awesome

oldeschool17 · Post by **oldeschool17** » 05 Mar 2011, 20:57

Is it just me or does this blu ray look like shit?

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 05 Mar 2011, 21:07

oldeschool17 wrote:Is it just me or does this blu ray look like shit?

it's soft looking but that could inherent to the film stock used.i've never seen the dvd so can't compare.Maybe it's been DNR'ed or it's an upscale

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 05 Mar 2011, 23:22

Looks like it's from a 16mm neg

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 06 Mar 2011, 01:22

Doesn't look good to me... but then I'm starting to wonder whether I have a fucking clue what I'm talking about as almost every Hong Kong film capped looks like smudgy no-detail pants.

And what's with the compression?

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 06 Mar 2011, 11:29

They're not that bad IMO. Soft image with obvios DVNR that has lost/smudged finer detail.

Not terrible, but they've over-processed an already unremarkable image.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 06 Mar 2011, 11:32

Markgway wrote:
And what's with the compression?

They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...

oldeschool17 · Post by **oldeschool17** » 06 Mar 2011, 15:13

luckystars wrote:They're not that bad IMO. Soft image with obvios DVNR that has lost/smudged finer detail.

Not terrible, but they've over-processed an already unremarkable image.

Well it obviously beats a 3rd gen boot or those compressed youku streams that fusubs decided to boot. For a Bluray, id expect much better. Does anybody have the Siren Visual DVD? I wouldn't be surprised if that dvd looked better.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Mar 2011, 00:53

saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...

I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?

So how come the image is compressed like that?

I really wish ALL Shaw Bros movies were handled by Media Blasters.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 07 Mar 2011, 08:10

Markgway wrote:
saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...
I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?

Yes, and at this size it shouldn't even matter if they were jpg. If you see compression problems, then it should be the disc, not the caps.

Below is a comparison I made using my Yatterman BD. The png caps are the original versions. The first pair is png vs jpg at normal size. The second is png vs jpg at 400% zoom. Can you tell any difference at all between the caps?

upload/HungFist/Yatter1a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter1b.jpg

upload/HungFist/Yatter2a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter2b.jpg

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 07 Mar 2011, 08:33

HungFist wrote:
Markgway wrote:
saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...
I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?
Yes, and at this size it shouldn't even matter if they were jpg. If you see compression problems, then it should be the disc, not the caps.

Below is a comparison I made using my Yatterman BD. The png caps are the original versions. The first pair is png vs jpg at normal size. The second is png vs jpg at 400% zoom. Can you tell any difference at all between the caps?

upload/HungFist/Yatter1a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter1b.jpg

upload/HungFist/Yatter2a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter2b.jpg

jpegs are softer

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 07 Mar 2011, 09:02

luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost?

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 07 Mar 2011, 09:40

HungFist wrote:
luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost?

Number 3, but it's barely noticeable

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 07 Mar 2011, 14:10

luckystars wrote:
HungFist wrote:
luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost?

Number 3, but it's barely noticeable

ok, I gotta give it to you, good eyes

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 07 Mar 2011, 14:47

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Mar 2011, 16:47

Lol... but I did notice compression on Hung's PNG caps as well.

So I guess it affects all caps.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 13 Mar 2011, 21:47

Review here...states it's a 1080i transfer yet my player says it's 1080p

weird

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Web-o ... 53/#Review

tolpol · Post by **tolpol** » 15 Mar 2011, 18:03

I only stumbled on these screenshots after I ordered the Blu-Ray and don't think I would've placed the order if I saw them first. Was hitting myself over the head I bought the disc without waiting for a review. However - the disc arrived today and it looks much better than the screenshots suggest. Looks comparable to Opium and the Kung Fu Master's HD transfer. Had the Australian dvd release by Siren - which was progressive PAL and most likely better than the IVL dvd - and the Blu-Ray really looks a LOT better. I'm well pleased.
It's a region free release, by the way.

oldeschool17 · Post by **oldeschool17** » 17 Mar 2011, 17:29

would you be able to post some screencaps of the siren disc for sake of comparison?

tolpol · Post by **tolpol** » 19 Mar 2011, 09:47

Here's a dvd shot - same as the third shot in the first post :

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2411 ... h40m57.png

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 Mar 2011, 10:58

Clearly the BD is sharper.

oldeschool17 · Post by **oldeschool17** » 23 Mar 2011, 16:39

tolpol wrote:Here's a dvd shot - same as the third shot in the first post :

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2411 ... h40m57.png

Thanks for posting

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