Philip Pullman attacks Narnia film

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Oct 2005, 15:08

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 347226.stm

Its' been a while since I saw any version of the Narnia stories (I have read some of the books and do have the classic BBC version of The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe somewhere) but I'm not sure what Pullman is talking about

"There's no love in the books" - nonsense.

As for racism, how are the books racist?

CS Lewis was an atheist who became Christian later in life (I think) which is why the books and TV versions are so full of symbolism:

The kids are often called "Sons of Adam" and "Daughters of Eve" etc, by a lot of characters.
Aslan is clearly like the Narnia people's "God", the instance of him being bound on the stone table by the White Witch and then coming back to life again, symbolises Christ's crucifiction and then resurrection.
Edmund is the Man of Sin and the White Witch is the Devil
.. etc.

What do you think?

I'm not religious BTW, but I thought this was interesting.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Oct 2005, 15:43

Bah, there are some people who say LOTR and Harry Potter are racist.
Narnia may be unintentionally racist, but it is definately not misogynistic.

And I'm not interested in what this stupid Pullman guy has to say about it.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Oct 2005, 15:47

Philip who???

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 16 Oct 2005, 15:50

I could care anyway it looks total bollocks

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Oct 2005, 15:59

Markgway wrote:Philip who???

Philip Pullman, the guy who wrote His Dark Materials (which is about a plot to overthrew religion and God).

I agree Tom I dont see where the mysoginism comes from, I wasnt aware of racism though, interesting

Romero,
Eh?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Oct 2005, 18:49

Tom,
(People who say LOTR/Harry Potter are racist and promote witchcraft): Yeah, nothing better to do I guess...

How is Narnia racist though

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 17 Oct 2005, 20:36

grim_tales wrote:Tom,
(People who say LOTR/Harry Potter are racist and promote witchcraft): Yeah, nothing better to do I guess...

How is Narnia racist though

People dream up all sorts of loony "interpretations" from innocent pieces of entertainment. I recall a christian fundamentalist primary school principal on the NZ news a few years ago claiming how he saw Pokemon as promoting witchcraft, satanism, etc. He argued that a pokeball is like a pentagram of summoning demons or some shit.

(The only "evils" of Pokemon is that it swindled parents of kids into buying a whole bunch of shit. Come on, releasing two slightly different versions of the same fucking game at the same time forcing kids to want both so that they can "catch 'em all!" )

Reminds me of the comic convention Q&A scene in Chasing Amy when Hooper is analysing the Star Wars trilogy as black-oppressive films.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Oct 2005, 20:42

People just have way to much time on their hands, they think of things that are not there, ussually the idiots think they are clever finding these so called facts! when realy its bollocks!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Nov 2005, 22:12

How does he think they are misogynistic? I fail to see where he's coming from.

The fact is they books of literally history it would be wrong to change them now. Another fact the work hasn't changed for decades but suddenly this Philip geezer has something to say.

He's simply after publicity.