Fortune Star - A Better Tomorrow Trilogy - WTF???

Ray_Rogers · Post by **Ray_Rogers** » 17 Jul 2009, 02:12

Markgway wrote:They could do ABT4.

Chow Yun-Fat, Ti Lung, and Dean Shek are still going... the latter two are getting on a bit though.

They could set it in an old folks home.

Think of the carnage!!!

Good one.

I have to go to the Post Office downtown to pick up the package Friday.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2009, 10:29

Was there an HKL DVD of ABT 2? Whats that like?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Jul 2009, 11:43

grim_tales wrote:Was there an HKL DVD of ABT 2? Whats that like?

http://caps-a-holic.com/vergleich.php?vergleichID=507

I rented it - not bad

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grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2009, 12:05

Was there 1 of III as well?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Jul 2009, 12:14

grim_tales wrote:Was there 1 of III as well?

It was planned (a promo trailer was on the ABT2 disc), but it never got out.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2009, 14:45

Thanks

I'll keep my IVL (?) box for now.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Jul 2009, 15:35

IVL: Progressive and mono.
Spectrum: Slightly more image at the sides and it's sharper.

I'd go for IVL, but it's a bit annoying

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Elsewhere, HKL has re-translated subtitles, whilst perhaps the US DVD may have better quality audio?

There's no perfect DVD.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2009, 20:03

When I say IVL I mean Fortune Star

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Jul 2009, 20:09

grim_tales wrote:When I say IVL I mean Fortune Star

Fortune Star only provide their materials to such distributors as Spectrum and IVL.

Ray_Rogers · Post by **Ray_Rogers** » 18 Jul 2009, 03:21

chenlung wrote:IVL: Progressive and mono.
Spectrum: Slightly more image at the sides and it's sharper.

I'd go for IVL, but it's a bit annoying .

Elsewhere, HKL has re-translated subtitles, whilst perhaps the US DVD may have better quality audio?

There's no perfect DVD.

Are you talking about the Anchor Bay release? That was only a single layer DVD and I sold it right as soon as I got the IVL/Fortune Star set of John Woo's Hero Collection. Now since I officially own the Joy Sales/Fortune Star release of the Trilogy, I have a double of I. Finally glad to own a set of the Trilogy which looks great, retains the film grain and has original theatrical audio. Only one let-down. The set isn't in a sturdy cardboard case IVL/Fortune Star had with their sets. It's just a slipcover.
Would "sharper" mean more DNR/EE? That's actually a detractor.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 18 Jul 2009, 07:46

Ray_Rogers wrote:
chenlung wrote:IVL: Progressive and mono.
Spectrum: Slightly more image at the sides and it's sharper.

I'd go for IVL, but it's a bit annoying .

Elsewhere, HKL has re-translated subtitles, whilst perhaps the US DVD may have better quality audio?

There's no perfect DVD.
Are you talking about the Anchor Bay release? That was only a single layer DVD and I sold it right as soon as I got the IVL/Fortune Star set of John Woo's Hero Collection. Now since I officially own the Joy Sales/Fortune Star release of the Trilogy, I have a double of I. Finally glad to own a set of the Trilogy which looks great, retains the film grain and has original theatrical audio. Only one let-down. The set isn't in a sturdy cardboard case IVL/Fortune Star had with their sets. It's just a slipcover.
Would "sharper" mean more DNR/EE? That's actually a detractor.

Are you talking about the first film, Ray? I had the Hero Collection but I sold it as soon as I got the Anchor Bay release. IVL's frame freezing was intolerable.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 18 Jul 2009, 10:34

Are you talking about the Anchor Bay release?

Yes, sorry. Despite being single layer, it may have better-handled audio (Fortune Star are said to over-filter their audio). I wonder what the subtitles on it are like.

Would "sharper" mean more DNR/EE? That's actually a detractor.

No, I think it's higher bitrate. Have a look at the comparison.

Ray_Rogers · Post by **Ray_Rogers** » 18 Jul 2009, 12:25

HungFist wrote:
Ray_Rogers wrote:
chenlung wrote:IVL: Progressive and mono.
Spectrum: Slightly more image at the sides and it's sharper.

I'd go for IVL, but it's a bit annoying .

Elsewhere, HKL has re-translated subtitles, whilst perhaps the US DVD may have better quality audio?

There's no perfect DVD.
Are you talking about the Anchor Bay release? That was only a single layer DVD and I sold it right as soon as I got the IVL/Fortune Star set of John Woo's Hero Collection. Now since I officially own the Joy Sales/Fortune Star release of the Trilogy, I have a double of I. Finally glad to own a set of the Trilogy which looks great, retains the film grain and has original theatrical audio. Only one let-down. The set isn't in a sturdy cardboard case IVL/Fortune Star had with their sets. It's just a slipcover.
Would "sharper" mean more DNR/EE? That's actually a detractor.
Are you talking about the first film, Ray? I had the Hero Collection but I sold it as soon as I got the Anchor Bay release. IVL's frame freezing was intolerable.

Yeah I think I am talking about the first film.

chenlung wrote:
Are you talking about the Anchor Bay release?
Yes, sorry. Despite being single layer, it may have better-handled audio (Fortune Star are said to over-filter their audio). I wonder what the subtitles on it are like.

Would "sharper" mean more DNR/EE? That's actually a detractor.
No, I think it's higher bitrate. Have a look at the comparison.

I don't remember what the subtitles were like. I've seen image comparisons on caps-a-holic.com and alot of the times bitrate means not alot if you're also including how the encode looks, whether or not the image is progressive and alot of other factors.
Hopefully when the Trilogy's released onto Blu-ray, it'll utilise a BD-50, high bitrate using either AVC or VC1 codec with no DNR/EE, fully lossless original theatrical audio and some great extras for each entry. Of course fully retranslated subs would be nice.
I'd only buy the HKL release of I & II for the extras.