The Official "Dragon Dynasty" Thread!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 30 Mar 2009, 15:52

Google Image search for me. I cannot be arsed putting discs in.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 30 Mar 2009, 15:54

Lazy bugger!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 30 Mar 2009, 16:00

bradavon wrote:
Markgway wrote:idn't the R1 UE fix the red snow?
Really? Did it come out later?

Yes.

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=2945

They better also fix Goldeneye, that one was a cropped mess.

Absofuckinglutely.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 30 Mar 2009, 17:23

Back to the topic, the DD Fong Sai Yuk will probably be more or less like the French dvd which also uses "The Legend of..." title. One thing that concerns me though is that on DD's cover the word "Legend" is HUGE while "Fong Sai Yuk" sits at the bottom barely visible. I hope the 100min run time holds up.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 30 Mar 2009, 18:28

I didn't even spot it said "Fong Sai-Yuk" at all.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 18 May 2009, 15:33

Fong Sai Yuk will be released on May 26.
On HK Flix the cover says "The Legend" in letters (with "of Fong Sai Yuk" in much smaller letters).

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.549 ... etails.htm

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 18 May 2009, 17:51

grim_tales wrote:Fong Sai Yuk will be released on May 26.
On HK Flix the cover says "The Legend" in letters (with "of Fong Sai Yuk" in much smaller letters).

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.549 ... etails.htm

Bey Logan said it's going to be the Dimension version with a Cantonese soundtrack cut to fit. Unlike other releases, it attempts to retrieve the original title though.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 May 2009, 19:20

Cool, thanks guys. How badly cut is the Dimension USA Cut?

One to consider, there is no even half decent English subtitled version.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 18 May 2009, 19:29

bradavon wrote:Cool, thanks guys. How badly cut is the Dimension USA Cut?

One to consider, there is no even half decent English subtitled version.

I think it may have been about 10 minutes of cuts. I can't remember exactly - there was a list of changes at the (now disappeared) alliance for respectful treatment of Asian films aimed at Miramax.

The Universe DVD is very slightly cut, 5.1, PAL>NTSC and non-anamorphic, but it's English subtitled. Not great, but would do I suppose.

From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs. I think (like much of HK cinema) a custom would be better.

Visually, the Dimension DVD will probably look the best levels-wise (despite being non-anamorphic).

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 18 May 2009, 19:33

chenlung wrote: From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs.

Which one is better?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 18 May 2009, 19:42

HungFist wrote:
chenlung wrote: From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs.
Which one is better?

The French as it's progressive - I think the mono soundtrack will be in a far better state as well.

I don't think either look fantastic visually, but I'm sure a bit of touching up of the French would make it look very acceptable.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 May 2009, 21:38

chenlung wrote:I think it may have been about 10 minutes of cuts. I can't remember exactly - there was a list of changes at the (now disappeared) alliance for respectful treatment of Asian films aimed at Miramax.

Thanks. That's a lot.

chenlung wrote:The Universe DVD is very slightly cut, 5.1, PAL>NTSC and non-anamorphic, but it's English subtitled. Not great, but would do I suppose.

That's the one I have. I never knew it was PAL to NTSC too but have only ever had a quick check of it. The 5.1 for what it's worth, it's as bad as Tai Chi Master Universe.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 18 May 2009, 21:51

Thanks. That's a lot.

It might not be 10 minutes, I could be wrong.

That's the one I have. I never knew it was PAL to NTSC too but have only ever had a quick check of it.

I think it's PAL>NTSC. I'd have to check.

The 5.1 for what it's worth, it's as bad as Tai Chi Master Universe.

To be honest, the 5.1s aren't as bad as the likes of 'Warriors Two' and 'Chinese Boxer'.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 19 May 2009, 01:40

I believe The Legend has a runtime around 95min, the HK DVD says 106min on the back of the case, so if that's with PAL speed up then you're looking at around 15min footage lost from the DD version.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 May 2009, 05:11

How many times can one film be fucked-up?

Any cred that DD had has all but evaporated.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 19 May 2009, 08:35

I didnt know the Universe DVD was cut, how come it's cut as well? If it was the HK DVD you would think it would be uncut.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 19 May 2009, 11:10

It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 19 May 2009, 11:30

Thanks

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 19 May 2009, 12:40

chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.

What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 May 2009, 13:21

Markgway wrote:How many times can one film be fucked-up? Any cred that DD had has all but evaporated.

It was to be expected this would be the Dimension cut.

On the upside, at least it fixes many of the problems with the HK DVD. Although I agree in principle.

chenlung wrote:DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.

Does this apply to all DD DVDs of Dimension cuts?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 May 2009, 21:42

Ivan Drago wrote:
chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?

Yeah, you know that's bullshit as the French managed to get an uncut version without bother. Channel 4 showed it uncut on TV FFS!

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 19 May 2009, 22:19

Markgway wrote:
Ivan Drago wrote:
chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?
Yeah, you know that's bullshit as the French managed to get an uncut version without bother. Channel 4 showed it uncut on TV FFS!

I think Channel 4 was missing a second of the burning body after the opening fight.

I think the French obtained their version ages ago (the Japanese released theirs in 2003) - perhaps this attitude from HK companies is a recently established one where they're just not giving a shit anymore.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 May 2009, 22:33

A second would be marvellous next to 10 minutes or so. More likely the HK studios wanted too much.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 19 May 2009, 23:19

Why would DD even bother with obtaining a chinese print when they've been perfectly happy to use the Dimension prints for just about every other release to date?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 19 May 2009, 23:55

Shingster wrote:Why would DD even bother with obtaining a chinese print when they've been perfectly happy to use the Dimension prints for just about every other release to date?

LOL it's already been explained

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'Tai Chi Master' is the only previously-owned Dimension title to have a non-Dimension version and instead, the export version (Dimension's shorter dub fills in the gaps with jumps to the 1993 dub). A mess of a release really (bad 5.1, downmix, frame issues, English dub issues, ropey subtitles, etc).

I don't know how some of it works. DD may only have the Cantonese soundtrack rights if they're reasonably priced, although it doesn't explain 'My Father Is A Hero's lack of Cantonese, and the access to 'TCM's export print.

Bey responded to someone (who then posted it on the forum) saying they weren't able to get the HK scenes for 'Fong Sai Yuk' - the HK company doesn't give a shit about their fans.