Face Off: Original R1US DVD vs Australian Blu-Ray

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 May 2008, 12:01

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 10 May 2008, 14:58

Blu Ray looks like shit!

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 May 2008, 15:29

Well... it sure isn't brilliant.
But it looks better than any DVD. We'll have to see if the US Blu-Ray can beat it.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 10 May 2008, 15:32

No idea what after processing they are doing to that Blu Ray, but its got rid of grain and created a bit of a mess to my eyes. I am stunned how similar the dvd looks to the HD version, makes a mockery of HD.

The USA HD DVD looks better than that (from memory), but has the bloody Noise Reduction on that version, so thats pointless as well as everyone looks like plastic, with white lines around them from the Edge Enhancement.

HD = dont transfer the film, first mess about digitally to make it look odd!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 May 2008, 17:43

tom2681 wrote:We'll have to see if the US Blu-Ray can beat it.

The USA HD-DVD is inferior to the International BDs and seeing as this is one of Paramount's re-releases I'd say it's 99% definite the USA BD will look identical to the existing USA HD-DVD. The BD was ready to go at the same time as the HD-DVD but was then pulled. The fact the spec is identical to the HD-DVD tells me they're done nothing with it since moving to BD.

You can see a comparison between the Disney BD and Paramount HD-DVD here:

http://www.mbmg.de/hd-discs/faceoff_bd-vs-hd/01.html

The International BDs have PCM over the Full-rate DTS on the Paramount discs but are virtually barebones, compared with all the HD extras on the Paramount discs.

tom2681 wrote:Note: the australian BD is uncut and region-free.

I understand the Mainland European ones are uncut too.

The DVD looks a mess, the BD looks much better.

Thanks btw.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 10 May 2008, 17:46

The HD-DVD version looks much better than the blu going off those caps.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 10 May 2008, 17:49

bradavon wrote: The DVD looks a mess, the BD looks much better.

Your eyes are crap then.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 May 2008, 17:54

Did you look at the link above Salty? The HD-DVD had has excessive DNR applied to it.

Personally I seriously doubt I'd notice the DNR or if I did it would only be minor so I'm going with the USA BD. Going by the captures though the International BDs easily look better.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » 12 May 2008, 15:25

Blu-ray is shit alright. I don't know how they have the balls to pass this of as HD and even less how people can be buying it and say it looks good. Everyone screamed for a remaster of the Fifth Element, but this one is at least 5 times as bad. I mean just look at what a mess it is, the film no longer has a grain structure, it has a cross-hatch structure.

And the HD DVD uses exactly the same master only DNR'd to ridiculous levels so that one's no better.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 May 2008, 15:30

romerojpg wrote:Your eyes are crap then.

You reckon the DVD looks better to the Aussie BD? If so it's yours that are crap. The BD does look better to the DVD.

Didn't you know I have bionic eyes?

Kris wrote:Everyone screamed for a remaster of the Fifth Element, but this one is at least 5 times as bad.

I'm still waiting for Sony to re-release House of Flying Daggers and Terminator myself.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Jun 2008, 01:19

Some interesting comments on the new USA BD:

shiny_happy_discs wrote:Face/Off - U.S. BD
Picture: ****/***** (knocks the crap out of the hideous HD DVD)

They've used a different codec. I believe that the DNR is in the source being used, so it's still present on the BD. I just didn't find it anywhere near the abhorant level as the HD DVD.

The extras have footage from the movie without the DNR and it looks fuggin' fabulous, darling! Shame the actual movie doesn't look the same.

Source: http://www.theimportforums.com/viewtopi ... &start=960

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 06 Jun 2008, 01:47

"The extras have footage from the movie without the DNR and it looks fuggin' fabulous, darling! Shame the actual movie doesn't look the same."

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 06 Jun 2008, 10:57

When the extras have a better PQ than the actual film, you know you've got a problem.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Jun 2008, 15:11

True but then all versions have DNR applied, we need to pick the best one and at the end of the day at least it looks better than the DVD.

A comparison between the Disney and Paramount BDs would be good. So far the Disney beats the Paramount HD-DVD.