The Official "Dragon Dynasty" Thread!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 09:04

Markgway wrote:Ironic that the DD cover art is the only image to order Miss Zhang's name correctly.

I noticed that too. It pisses me off too and it isn't exactly hard to remember. You're told once Chinese names are spelt surname first and you remember it. It's particularly dumb when all versions of Crouching Tiger called it the Chinese way. She was unknown then, but still.

I understand she prefers it/is happy to spell the Western way when in the West but no doubt she says that to please prospective job offers.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 09:35

I've only had a quick listen as I've not seen the film yet but my Dog Bite Dog commentary doesn't go out of sync. It's scene specific too. I checked a few chapters at the start and the last 3 chapters. You could quickly tell all were n sync, as they were talking about things happening on screen.

That other guy (I forget who posted) must have had a duff DVD. Edison Chen has a really annoying American accent!

The AV is excellent btw (great 5.1 tracks). I've not seen a DD DVD before. Their DD logo sucks compared to the classic HKL one. All the audio tracks are listed as English (including the Cantonese ones), not that it matters of course.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 16 Feb 2008, 12:38

How are the subtitles on the latest releases? Hope they're not flubtitles.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Feb 2008, 13:11

If she wants to westernise her name then why not take a western name like most stars have done? Katie Zhang for instance?

I wonder how many people go upto her and ask for Zaang Zee Yee?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Feb 2008, 13:18

How do you pronounce it?

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 16 Feb 2008, 16:09

Seems that there's no Chinese title on the print of DD's Banquet. Does the HK DVD have English subtitles?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 20:05

Do you mean there is no Chinese titles in the credits? If so that doesn't bother me really.

Yes the HK DVD has English subs but not on the extras.

grim_tales wrote:How do you pronounce it?

Zang Z Ye

chenlung wrote:How are the subtitles on the latest releases? Hope they're not flubtitles.

I'd imagine they're high quality, aren't all DD discs? Except for dubtitles of course. I cannot check as I've not seen it.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 20:07

Is Dragon Heat/Dragon Squad any good? I get the feeling it's not but the trailer does make it look decent.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 16 Feb 2008, 21:35

bradavon wrote:Is Dragon Heat/Dragon Squad any good? I get the feeling it's not but the trailer does make it look decent.

Where did you see the trailer?

The film itself really had the potential to be something great. They didn't handle it well, though. Too bad.2.5/5 to me.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 21:43

At the start of my Dog Bite Dog DD DVD there are about 4 trailers for DD DVDs (why can they not be on a menu?), it's one of them.

Thanks LD. I've been reading up on it and most are sayng about the same, pity as Maggie Q with a sniper gun is well sexy

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 16 Feb 2008, 21:45

Another review for "The Banquet":
http://hkfilmnews.blogspot.com/2008/02/ ... ew-by.html

I agree with him. The film is great, but I wouldn't recommend it to everybody.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 21:48

I've had the HK DVD since it was released (the cheap one with the LE book) but so far haven't felt inclined to watch it, which is unusual as I usually cannot wait to see a Zhang Ziyi film.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Feb 2008, 22:22

Found it unbelievably boring.
Think of it as "Curse of the Golden Flower in slow-motion".

Try it when your sleeping pills don't work.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Feb 2008, 22:31

Thanks. I thought Curse of the Golden Flower was very good, slow but worth it.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Feb 2008, 12:02

grim_tales wrote:How do you pronounce it?

jong tzih-ee

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 17 Feb 2008, 12:25

Mark wrote:jong tzih-ee

I thought it was more like:
Jung (as in "jungle") Dzee-Yee.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Feb 2008, 17:37

It sounds like Zang Z Ye to me.

I don't even know how you pronounce what Tom or Mark said

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Feb 2008, 17:40

bradavon wrote:It sounds like Zang Z Ye to me.

I don't even know how you pronounce what Tom or Mark said

No problem:

"I thought it was more like: Jung (as in "jungle") Dzee-Yee."

Have no idea about Mark.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 17 Feb 2008, 19:34

I pronounce it like this:

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 22 Feb 2008, 00:53

Jung Zee-Yee.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 22 Feb 2008, 09:52

tom2681 wrote:
Mark wrote:jong tzih-ee
I thought it was more like:
Jung (as in "jungle") Dzee-Yee.

The Mandarin accent is tricky and it could very well be that my 'Jong' and your 'Jung' are virtually the same sounding. Maybe 'Jung' is a better romanization? I won't argue. Even 'Jang' is close enough if you say it with an accent. We can agree that it definately ain't 'zzz'

I would hazard a guess that your 'dz' sound and my 'tz' are interchangeable. The emphasis is on the 'zih' or 'zuh' sound. I don't think an 'ee' sound is correct despite the 'i' spelling.

I believe that the 'y' in 'yi' is silent (or at least extremely feint). A soft 'y' would be OK. It's why in the old Wade-Giles system Yi was written as I.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 22 Feb 2008, 10:45

I just call her Betty Kick-Ass.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 22 Feb 2008, 14:38

Not to her face.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Feb 2008, 17:35

Regardless of how it's technically supposed to be said, does anyone "hear" Jung as in Jungle when you hear her name said? I sure don't. Unless people keep saying it wrong.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 22 Feb 2008, 17:43

@Brad:
Maggie Cheung is pronounced Maggie Jung (as in "jungle").
And since Zhang is the mandarin spelling of Cheung, I thought that might be right.