cheap toshiba hd-dvd player with 7 films.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 19 Jan 2008, 13:27

take away the value of the 7 movies and this player costs about £50-£60

http://www.electrical123.com/products/P ... -HDEP30-BK

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Jan 2008, 14:18

Isn't that the latest model too? I'm pretty sure it's a 3G HD-DVD Player.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 19 Jan 2008, 16:13

Sold Out

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 21 Jan 2008, 18:36

play have this for £120 with 7 free discs!

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electro ... ource=9593

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 21 Jan 2008, 18:40

ridiculous prices

even more so with Quidco discounts etc..

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Jan 2008, 22:53

Until it also play BD it could cost £50 and I wouldn't buy one. I'd probably recommend my friends do though.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 21 Jan 2008, 23:09

At Ibood.com there is now a HDDVD Toshiba up, including 4 movies...
(WTC, 300. Blood Diamond & Dreamgirls)

150 euro. Personally, I'm not interested. I think I'll end up with a PS3 and Blu-Ray (PS3 rumoured to drop to 300 euro at the end of the month)

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 21 Jan 2008, 23:30

Why buy a player for a dead medium?

Why buy a PS3 that can't play PS2 games?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Jan 2008, 23:44

thelostdragon wrote:Why buy a player for a dead medium?

HD-DVD is far from dead. It's likely to die but has lots of time left in it yet.

thelostdragon wrote:Why buy a PS3 that can't play PS2 games?

Aren't those much more expensive? PS2 games are old. Fine if you've got some but not otherwise.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 21 Jan 2008, 23:48

I love the "Metal Gear Solid" games. If I can't play them on the PS3 I'm not buying one unless they start producing the more expensive version again at a lower price. I'm not keeping two Play Stations next to each other. I also have a Nintendo Wii so it's bound to look messy next to my TV.

As for HD, yes it's dying. Why invest hard earned cash into something that is dying soon?

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 22 Jan 2008, 00:09

I dont have any PS2 games, although some I'd love to play. The Metal Gear Solid trilogy is certainly on my wish-list, but I believe those will have HD remakes soon, so that's ok.

Also, even though Sony dropped BC, it seems they are still looking for programmers for BC for their PS3 and the upcoming PS4, according to some news last week, so we can only hope that BC will make a return.

If the 360 had been fully BC, I wouldnt have to mod my Xbox to make sure I can put my games on the HD and still enjoy them all in 5-10 years time...

As far as HDDVD goes. I'm not sure if it's dead. I certainly hope not, as it's better than Blu-Ray (region-free, no DRM crap), but sure as hell wouldnt waste more than 100 bucks on it at the moment.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 22 Jan 2008, 00:39

What's BC?

HD remasters of the Metal Gear Solid-trilogy? Where have you heard about that? Because that would be awesome if it was true.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 22 Jan 2008, 01:02

thelostdragon wrote:What's BC?

Backwards compatibility.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Jan 2008, 01:38

thelostdragon wrote:As for HD, yes it's dying. Why invest hard earned cash into something that is dying soon?

Because like I said it's not dying soon or even confirmed it's dying, it's likely though.

* Toshiba still sell Players
* Microsoft still supports HD-DVD and sell the Xbox 360 add-on
* Paramount still support only HD-DVD
* Universal still support only HD-DVD
* None of the above have eluded to supporting BD in fact quite the opposite
* Many European labels still only support HD-DVD
* Terminator 2 is still coming in March on a super duper HD-DVD German SE
* Terminator 2 BD still sucks!
* There are still 500-1000 HD-DVD exclusive titles and more coming soon.
* Even if both Universal and Paramount also supported BD it will still take months (if not more) to re-release all those movies.
* Owning HD-DVD Player doesn't suddenly stop all your HD-DVDs from working. You can own both you know

* Owning a Combo Player will still let you play BD and your existing HD-DVDs

In short HD-DVD isn't going anywhere any time soon. Me I'm going Combo. T2 German SE will be Mine! 8)

I'm not sure if it's dead. I certainly hope not, as it's better than Blu-Ray (region-free, no DRM crap).

I'll give you Region Free but what's all this DRM crap? Both have copy protection which is in fact identical. BD has an extra protection layer but you should only come across it if you try and copy one and that's not yet possible. I believe some players have issues playing some BD+ encoded discs but that's down to firmware nothing more.

I believe that's the gist of it anyway.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 22 Jan 2008, 15:28

thelostdragon wrote:
As for HD, yes it's dying. Why invest hard earned cash into something that is dying soon?

around 800 titles tells me the format isn't going anywhere soon.it'll take years to re-release the hd-dvd exclusives onto blu-ray.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 22 Jan 2008, 16:13

thelostdragon wrote:What's BC?

HD remasters of the Metal Gear Solid-trilogy? Where have you heard about that? Because that would be awesome if it was true.

I believe there was news a few months ago that they're planning a huge collector's box of the old games, to release it on the PS3. Not 100% sure if it will have updated HD graphics though, but would seem silly not to...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Jan 2008, 17:00

And unlike Laserdisc your player isn't defunct even if HD-DVD does die.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 23 Feb 2008, 14:52

Today at Ibood, that Toshiba HD-EP30 including 9 HD movies, was offered for 90 euro...
I thought about buying it, but TBH I am just not gonna bother. Now that HDDVD is dead, those movies that are out on HDDVD will probably come to BR.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Feb 2008, 19:10

Yes they will but it will take months/years. It all depends if you're happy sticking with BD and waiting for the eventual HD-DVDs or not. That and both Paramount and Universal will at some point let us know what their next/first BDs will be. We'll then have a better idea of the schedule.

It's unlikely I'd ever pick up a HD-DVD Player outside of a Combo. I've always been against owning two players.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Feb 2008, 15:37

Yi-Long wrote:I believe there was news a few months ago that they're planning a huge collector's box of the old games, to release it on the PS3. Not 100% sure if it will have updated HD graphics though, but would seem silly not to...

You read wrong, there aren't any "HD remakes" coming.

bradavon wrote: PS2 games are old. Fine if you've got some but not otherwise.

...and? Wanting to play classic games is no different than wanting to watch classic movies. Just because a lot of fickle people won't care, doesn't a lot of others don't.

I for one would love to have the option of playing classic PS2 games w/ proper hardware-based upscaling.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 24 Feb 2008, 16:48

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:I believe there was news a few months ago that they're planning a huge collector's box of the old games, to release it on the PS3. Not 100% sure if it will have updated HD graphics though, but would seem silly not to...
You read wrong, there aren't any "HD remakes" coming.

You're right. Turned out they are making the collector's box for the PS2 (!) How lame is that!?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Feb 2008, 18:37

EvaUnit02 wrote:...and? Wanting to play classic games is no different than wanting to watch classic movies. Just because a lot of fickle people won't care, doesn't a lot of others don't.

You cut my sentence in half! Read the entire sentence. Newcomers to the PS3 aren't also going to have any PS2 games to play on it.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 25 Feb 2008, 02:11

Still, and? Yi is living proof of "I never owned a PS2, but would love to play some of those classics."

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 25 Feb 2008, 07:04

Not only it'll take month/years until the BR catalogue catch up, these films will sell on BR for about 25 € apiece while as of now, you'll be able to find the exact same disc on HD-DVD for 10 €. Buy a handful, and your player came for free. Plus it can play DVD too.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Feb 2008, 14:59

Agreed, all these cheap HD-DVDs are mighty tempting. I hope I won't buy a HD-DVD Player though and it will be a Combo. LG are still supporting Combos.