Tomorrow Never Dies R1 (SE) vs UK R2 (SE) vs UK R2 (UE)

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jul 2006, 14:51

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MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 16 Jul 2006, 21:52

My brother used to have the old non SE release of this and the transfer looked very similar but interestingly it had the original burnt on
captions....

MARK: Can you tell me what software and settings, you use to take your pictures? I don't want to be using different software as it could affect the quality of the captures, been using PDVD 7 of late and I'm not convinced by the quality of these caps from the R2, i'll have a look again if I've turned on any settings which shouldn't be on

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 16 Jul 2006, 22:28

I see that the R2's cropped.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jul 2006, 23:43

MLAM wrote:MARK: Can you tell me what software and settings, you use to take your pictures? I don't want to be using different software as it could affect the quality of the captures, been using PDVD 7 of late and I'm not convinced by the quality of these caps from the R2, i'll have a look again if I've turned on any settings which shouldn't be on

Umm... Power Cinema and I've no idea what the settings are. I haven't changed a thing so I guess normal or average.

I'll edit the R2 Special Edition Caps into my original post. Then you can delete the images from your post if you want.

Just post the links for the Ultimate Edition caps. If I have the URLs that's enough.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jul 2006, 23:53

There's a smidgen more image on the left of the R1 and it's perhaps a smidgen sharper too - look at Brosnan's stubble on the 2nd cap.

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 00:32

Markgway wrote:There's a smidgen more image on the left of the R1 and it's perhaps a smidgen sharper too - look at Brosnan's stubble on the 2nd cap.

I forgot to say I have the R1 SE too and it dont appear as sharp as your captures Mark.

Is your's the R1 SE or just the non SE R1?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 00:43

Mine is the collector's silver sleeve edition. I can't imagine why yours would be less sharp? Have you compared using your own caps?

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 00:48

Markgway wrote:Mine is the collector's silver sleeve edition. I can't imagine why yours would be less sharp? Have you compared using your own caps?

Like Wise mine is the silver collectors edition,

I've done my comparison myself on the shot of Brosnan like above, the R1 is ever so slightly sharper but no where near the difference as the shots show above.

Have you got Hardware Acceleration turned on in your Power Cinema?

Can you have a look at your settings for me?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 01:00

I don't have anything called Hardware Acceleration. The settings seem very basic to me and I have them set to normal.

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 01:05

Oh right ok Mark,

Thanks anyway, Goldeneye R2 SE Caps coming up.

Just a small note, you may want to add that your caps are from the R1 SE as some new comers may just think its from the old non SE release

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 01:24

Right. Are you gonna do the Ultimate Edition caps tomorrow?

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 17:17

Caps posted above by Mark now

Again it seems a little cropped but the colours seem to be more red on this transfer.

MARK: Would you object if I made some new caps for the R1 SE as it would be from the same system and software?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2006, 17:21

Blimey look how pink Pierce's face is.

Interesting the UE has the original theatrical captions, as demonstrated by the Devonshire cap. I think I'll upgrade this one.
I have the R1 TND SE, BTW (not the one in the silver case)

Also BTW I think the girl Pierce is snogging in that scene is Danish

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 17:32

grim_tales wrote:Blimey look how pink Pierce's face is.
Interesting the UE has the original theatrical captions, as demonstrated by the Devonshire cap. I think I'll upgrade this one.
I have the R1 TND SE, BTW (not the one in the silver case)
Also BTW I think the girl Pierce is snogging in that scene is Danish

I know about the pink! Look at it

Well the devenshire caption is back but as for the others I've looked at there still player generated, then again so was the R1 SE.

Oh right

, shows you how good my language's are

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jul 2006, 21:04

Oh OK, well if some are player generated you can't have everything.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:12

MLAM wrote:MARK: Would you object if I made some new caps for the R1 SE as it would be from the same system and software?

No, that would be alright. I only did the caps because I didn't realise you had THREE versions of the same movie!

EDIT: I'll only edit them in as replacements if there's a noticeable difference though, yeah? I can't see why there would be.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:15

Again the UK R2 SE looks better. I suspect that's because of PAL.

Those UE captures back up the DVD Times review. Why they have added a stupid red filter is beyond me.

Good idea to have a second R1 SE capture. Mark's should stay there too though. I've added UK to the above captures, as we know they "can" change between R2 countries.

LOL Pierce looks sun burnt in this one

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Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:32

Cap 1. UE is clearer, but loses the blue tint that makes the SE look even colder somehow. UE is also slightly cropped on left and right.

Cap 2. UE colours more saturated, pinkish, but a sliver more image on the bottom.

Cap 3. The foreground looks good, but the background is very pink on the UE.

Cap 4. UE maybe a smidgen smoother, but there's nothing much in it.

Cap 5. UE replaces the blue tint with a red - not a particularly good thing if you ask me. Look at how red stamper is now. The lighting is also softer.

Cap 6. Aside from the cropping, this is probably the only cap that is visually more pleasing than the SE.

Verdict: Unless the UE has more cuts restored than the R1 I'm just gonna keep what I have.

Thanks to MLAM for the caps.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:36

bradavon wrote:Good idea to have a second R1 SE capture. Mark's should stay there too though.

If there's any discernible difference between my caps for the R1 and MLAM's then I'll just switch them for the sake of the comparison as mine won't be needed. I'll check them out first before doing anything though as I still can't see why they would be different if both our settings are standard.

I've added UK to the above captures, as we know they "can" change between R2 countries.

Fair enough.

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:56

Markgway wrote:
MLAM wrote:MARK: Would you object if I made some new caps for the R1 SE as it would be from the same system and software?
No, that would be alright. I only did the caps because I didn't realise you had THREE versions of the same movie!
EDIT: I'll only edit them in as replacements if there's a noticeable difference though, yeah? I can't see why there would be.

Haha, well I got the R1 a long time ago and kinda forgot about it until I sorted out my collection last week

Yeah that sounds fair

My cap

Your Cap

Not sure really, maybe down to compression more than anything, what software have you used?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 18 Jul 2006, 00:06

If anyone sees a difference between the last two caps I'll switch mine for MLAM's.

LMK please. 8)

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 18 Jul 2006, 00:09

My Cap

Marks Cap

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 18 Jul 2006, 00:30

Looks the same to me......

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 18 Jul 2006, 00:32

Indeed, maybe its a compression thing thats made yours appear a little different.

If no one thinks its worth changing then we can leave it

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Jul 2006, 00:38

In the first case MLAM's looks better as the colours are better but in the second Mark's looks better as Pierce looks to red.

It does prove what I already knew that these should only ever be taken as an indicter and are not scientific tests.