Man stopped from taking photos of his KIDS

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Jul 2008, 21:28

@Romero:
Is that a crime?
I like good music.

Anyway, it's true that your face is going to end up on the web no matter what.
There's no point in fighting it.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 16 Jul 2008, 21:31

tom2681 wrote:@Romero:
Is that a crime?
I like good music.

No crime I love them

Wish I had seen them once in my life, and someone snapped me at the concert

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Jul 2008, 21:38

I've seen Shania Twain twice, Katie Melua twice and The Corrs 4 maybe 5 times (twice at a festival, the second time as the main act).

The first time I saw The Corrs was a supporting act, way before they were even known of in The UK. I thought they were great the first time I heard them, rare for a supporting act.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jul 2008, 22:25

There's a difference between catching someone's face in a photograph and deliberately taking one of them without their permission. The latter is not cool, and yes, if Romero did that to me I'd break his fucking camera. No joke! I'm frankly amazed it hasn't happened yet!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Jul 2008, 23:30

I'm amazed too

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I don't see the harm as such taking someone's photo, as long as you remove it if asked.

My website has stacks of photos of "people watching".

At the end of the day, like Romero says we quite simply have no control over our image any more (if we ever truly did). I'm not going to get paranoid about it, when I've no idea where it's being displayed anyway.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 16 Jul 2008, 23:40

Who cares, everyone sees your face every time you walk around in public anyway.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2008, 13:00

That's not the point. Maybe you're someplace you don't want to be seen? Maybe you're in witness protection(!) Point is we each have a a right to privacy that stops bell-ends deliberately taking our photos. It's rude and ignorant. And you shouldn't have to ask for it to be deleted. That's after the fact. If it was film that wouldn't work anyway.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 17:25

Nice idea in theory but try telling that to the government, who daily capture us on camera.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Jul 2008, 17:29

Rules don't apply to the government. You should know that.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 17:34

Not just the government, its every shop, pub, street, house, lift, carpark or workplace with cameras on or in, taking video or images.

Dodgy people snapping kids mind you, well its different

I snapped a kid playing a while back, then when I got home I thought shit that must have looked well dodgy

you should not have to think like that if you are innocent like me, but people think that way becuase the media makes people feel as if scum are on every corner ready to steal kids and rape them.

Thing is if your a scummy pedo then really you would not exactly make it obvious, you would hide in the dark with the devil, or just google it! less risk then going on the street snapping youngsters I assume.

Still not that it matters anyway, they do not get punished even when they are found guilty of sickening crimes agaisnt children

maybe if they killed them people may stop doing it.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:24

Romero, why do you take pictures of children? It is a bit dodgy lol

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:29

gasteropod wrote:Romero, why do you take pictures of children? It is a bit dodgy lol

Artistic reasons, I take photos of everything.
Whatever pops in front of me, if I can get a good image I will take a photo (within reason obviously)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:36

I can appreciate Romero's reasoning. I do the same but I draw the line at children, without permission.

While in Thailand, I was in a shop looking around and this sweet little girl ran up and pointed at some necklaces around a corner of a stand. She could see I was looking at some other necklaces.

I asked the father if I could take her photo, he nodded yes, so I did. If he'd said no I certainly wouldn't have taken any.

The fact I knew the edict is to Wai, possibly helped. Not many tourists know to do it or feel comfortable doing it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_greeting

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:43

bradavon wrote:I can appreciate Romero's reasoning. I do the same but I draw the line at children, without permission.

Ohh believe me it is not something I have done too often and would feel a bit odd doing it the more I think about it. I could get stoned and killed for even pointing a camera at children in the wrong area of town.
Ussually it is by accident that I snap them now, like I am snapping away and they run into frame etc.. otherwise I try to avoid them, but you never know.

I find adults more interesting anyway, and many of them see me snapping them.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:45

romerojpg wrote:Ussually it is by accident that I snap them now, like I am snapping away and they run into frame etc.. otherwise I try to avoid them, but you never know.

Children do have an amazing knack of being completely un-camera shy. It can produce some excellent natural shots.

I have a great one of a friends little boy, who just happened to star at my camera with a big grin, just as I pressed the button. It was a major fluke but the photo came out great.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 19:56

Thing is in other countries I would be scared ever to snap a child in any way

you dont know the language perfectly or their customs. At least in the UK we know how people feel if they speak to you etc.. or even throw you a glance of distaste or evil, or sometimes smile which is always nice

In the end most parents will feel a little something about anyone around with a camera if they do not know them.

Stranger = Danger + Camera = evil child stealing murderer.

Best to be safe than sorry I guess.

Still art is nice with kids in images, look here for proof of that, some are just snaps from parents, some by pro's, some arty etc.. and some are pants I will admit, but some are amazing images.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/kidslife/pool/

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 20:04

romerojpg wrote:Thing is in other countries I would be scared ever to snap a child in any way you dont know the language perfectly or their customs.

Definitely. I'm always much more careful when abroad.

Some of those photos are excellent.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 17 Jul 2008, 20:16

Kids are the best photographic subjects, i have a folder with around 500 photos of my niece in the first 2 years of her life, many are just spontaneous ones that i feel look great, whilst she is playing or sleeping or just catching her smiling. But i do try to avoid snapping photos of kids that arent related to me, theres to much paranoia about it. I've very wary of uploading photos of my niece to the internet though

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 20:22

Yup I would never upload any of my family ever on the net, even if they said it was OK. Others do not mind and upload everything of all family members.

Like you my little family members are fantastic for images, I have taken many thousands of pics, plenty of them suck mind you

but hey you have to take bad ones to get one really good one (well I do haha). I can take 500 in a day easy, and only find maybe 10 ones I like that are worth editing.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 17 Jul 2008, 20:33

yeah i must have tken thousands of my nieces and nephews over the years, more so since i did my Alevel in photography, given that i have 11 nieces/nephews i'm never short of models lol. there are just a few that i really love, most of them are of my youngest niece in her first year. i would love to share them with people but i just dont trust to put them online

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 21:22

romerojpg wrote:but hey you have to take bad ones to get one really good one (well I do haha). I can take 500 in a day easy, and only find maybe 10 ones I like that are worth editing.

Definitely. It's normal and why I always take so many. Only taking a handful rarely gets you good ones.

Shen wrote:I've very wary of uploading photos of my niece to the internet though

I would but I'd put them in a password protected folder, most sites let you do this. I'd then only give access to friends/family.

What I cannot understand, is people who takes thousands of photos then never show them to people. That's one thing lost with Digital Cameras. People used to create photo albums and show them to friends/family. Now they just sit on a HD to be never seen again.

I've still not seen one of my best mates Honeymoon photos in New Zealand. It's why I put them on the web, it's the modern way for friends/family to see your photos.

Shen wrote:i would love to share them with people but i just dont trust to put them online

Upload them then only give access to those you trust.

My own site has a simple method to password protect directories but I believe sites like Facebook also have a simple method to protect photos.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 17 Jul 2008, 21:48

so i wanna see if this works

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romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 17 Jul 2008, 21:49

I find the easy way is to stick them on a cd and give them to people, stuff the crappy net as most people still have no clue how to use it. Or get the printed large (I hate snap size photos now).

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 17 Jul 2008, 21:54

do you have a flickr account romero?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jul 2008, 22:18

romerojpg wrote:I find the easy way is to stick them on a cd and give them to people, stuff the crappy net as most people still have no clue how to use it.

You what? My Nan doesn't have a scooby doo but otherwise most people now know how to use e-mail and click on a link.

Whenever I go away I send a batch e-mail to friends with my website link and not one of them has any trouble clicking through to the relevant page.

I'd say most people know how to navigate websites nowadays. If anything giving someone a CD is more difficult. They need to know how to navigate folders etc..., besides it's not efficient sending CDs around the country, let alone the world.

romerojpg wrote:Or get the printed large (I hate snap size photos now).

It's not suitable to print more than a handful out large. Sure for extra special ones but if you want to show friends/family more than that you cannot print out lots of large photos.

I've no issue with 6x4 prints. 7x5 can be OTT for just your regular holiday snaps.

Shen wrote:do you have a flickr account romero?

He does. It used to be in his signature.

Those photo links load fine btw, what are you trying to show? Cute baby.