What Have You Just Seen... Marks Out of 5

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 23 Feb 2007, 20:58

well obviously if LD watches them in germany in german they must

(is that right LD?)

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 23 Feb 2007, 21:06

yeah, but that was news to me.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 21:07

That's unbelievable. She won the first price again. Let's see if she can make it again next week. Stay tuned.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 23 Feb 2007, 21:11

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:29

The UK doesn't show foreign movies dubbed anymore... I was just surprised that Germany still does when subtitles seem like the sensible option. Do Germans like watching dubbed movies?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:39

Markgway wrote:Do Germans like watching dubbed movies?

The mass market? Yup. We got great voice actors. Most actors have their own voice actors here.

Personally, I like to watch films in their original language, but I don't care when I go to the theatre. Some films I grew up with are still kinda weird when watching them in their original language, though.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:39

The germans do love their dubbings.

The french, on the other hand...
Well, they don't even know that english films are shot in english.

A recent study showed that 87% of french people only watch dubbed films.
+ You won't find many subtitled films over here (even on TV).

LD wrote:weird when watching them in their original language

I know exactly what you mean.
I still watch Star Wars and Indiana Jones with the old classic french dub from time to time.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:44

Knetan wrote:hey,

I didn't spot Jackie in it, great to see Sammo in it.
As highlighted in Jackie Chan My Story, he does stunts but one of the more clear shots is of Jackie to the left (screen left) in a doorframe as Angela enters the Japanese dojo at some point before the finale.

Thanks

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:45

Dreamgirls

A solid 8 out of 10

You probably need to like musicals but as I do I thought it was excellent. Decent acting by all, an engaging story, bloody fantastic black 70's soul and funk music. I was really tempted to get up and boogie, of course I'd have looked well weird in the cinema doing this but my feet was tapping that's for sure. I don't normally buy soundtrack albums (as they usually don't work outside the film) but this one I think I'll pick up the soundtrack.

It's great to see Eddie Murphy on form again after so long (pity his upcoming film looks to put him back at the bottom), he is excellent. Every scene however is stolen by Jennifer Hudson who boy she has a voice on her.

It's also good to see an American film with a 99% black cast.

It was fun working out who was mimicking who, by my count we have: The Supremes/Diana Ross obviously (although Beyonce didn't play it bitchy), James Brown (Eddie Murphy) and The Jackson Five.

One song does go on for too long but other than that I'd have trouble faulting it. It does feel longer than it's 2 hour running time but no harm there.

All in all a rollickingly good ride. I'd definitely recommend it. Pity it seems to be slowly being killed off at the cinema (at least in my area), odd when it's up for a few awards and has only been out a few weeks.

The film was almost spoilt but having to sit RIGHT in the front row. I've never sat that far forward for a film before, it was like an odd IMAX experiance. Not recommended!

Jennifer Hudson definitely deserves to win the best supporting actor role.

Which brings me to a good point. Forest Whitacker is up for Best Actor (and my god he should win) but really he should be up for Best Supporting Actor, he's not the main part.

Jennifer Hudson is the main female part in Dreamgirls yet she's up for Best Supporting Actor, huh? Presumably The Academy thinks Beyonce is the main female lead, yes she has a big part but I'd say Jennifer Hudson's is bigger.

degeneration · Post by **degeneration** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:45

About A Boy 3/5

A few decent laughs in there, but definitely more my girlf's sort of film than mine!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:46

Personally I though AAB was very good. You can count on one hand the amount of films Hugh Grant has shown some range as an actor, this is one of them.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 22:50

tom2681 wrote:I still watch Star Wars and Indiana Jones with the old classic french dub from time to time.

Tom, are you a fan of Belmondo movies? Man, I can only watch them in German. The dubbing is so funny. I recently got "Le Professionnel". Hilarious.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:00

BiscLimpkit wrote:Yup pretty backwards but it's what they prefer over there.

Alas I'd say it's the norm (outside of English language films "maybe") more than not. Sad really

Shen wrote:its quite easy to understand, what hes saying is, the majority of films that are shown in european cinemas are in english...not all people in these countries speak english, so they dub them...whilst here we will watch them undubbed becaused well we can all speak english ...(usually)

not hard now is it?

So subtitle them like they do in the UK, not hard now is it?

. It works well in Holland, where only kids films get dubbed.

I can't remember the last theatrically dubbed film released in the UK. I guess it was some Martial Arts film eons ago.

Sure most wouldn't go to see a subtitled film but then dubbing it would only make it worse, in the UK anyway. Thankfully unlike countries like Germany we don't do dubbing

I'd rather watch all my films with subtitles (English included, if I couldn't speak it) than an atrocious dub, and yes I'm sure some dubs are better than others but to me a dub is a dub and I can't stand them period.

The only time I don't mind too much is if it's a different Chinese dialect/language than the one being spoken.

I'm sure if I was brought up with it I'd feel different but as I don't I'll always struggle to understand why someone would opt for it over subtitles.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:00

@LD:

Not a huge fan, but yeah I like the guy.
"100 000 dollars au soleil", "Le Cerveau" and "Les Morfalous" are my favorites.

You probably haven't heard of them, though (they're quite rare).

If you can track down Le Cerveau (The Brain), it's well worth a watch.
It's even got David Niven and Eli Wallach in it.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:09

That Mitchell and Webb Situation - 3/5

Early TV outing for David Mitchell and Robert Webb, made for the now defunct cable channel Play UK. Not as funny as later series That Mitchell and Webb Sound (radio series) but there is a genesis of some sketches and characters, and its interesting to see their early work

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:11

bradavon wrote:Thankfully unlike countries like Germany we don't do dubbing

Why would you? The number of the foreign language films you guys get is extremely small, maybe almost non-existant apart from some exceptional Zhang Yimou-film. In Germany, we only get a couple of German film running at the theatre every year, compared to the foreign language films we get.

So there isn't really such a big need for dubbing in the UK.

I'd rather watch all my films with subtitles (English included, if I couldn't speak it) than an atrocious dub.

Me, too. If it is a German dub for a big budget film, I couldn't care less, though. It wouldn't make sense to let you listen to the great German dubs, though since you don't speak our language.

My sister who grew up in the US and finished studying German at the university over there visited us last year and we watched "The Last Samurai" on DVD. She insisted to watch it in German since she didn't get the opportunity to watch a film in German that often. After we watched the film she said that she liked Tom Cruise German voice better than his original, lol. Funny, isn't it?

The only time I don't mind too much is if it's a different Chinese dialect/language than the one being spoken.

Like Andy Lau getting dubbed often in Mandarin films? Wouldn't that have to do something with the fact that you don't understand the language?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:15

tom2681 wrote: A recent study showed that 87% of french people only watch dubbed films.

A recent study showed that 100% of finnish people believe they've never seen a dubbed movie. The actual number however is 87%. The rest didn't know english isn't the original language of Jackie Chan's Hong Kong movies

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:17

Tom, I watched "Le Cerveau" and "Les Morfalous". The other one is availabel on DVD here as well since it is part of a Lino Ventura DVD boxset.

I love "Le Cerveau". Man, how did they come up with the idea of these guys discussing business on those balloon seats in the swimming pool. It is hilarious to see them paddling with their feet which is supposed to move them around. Everytime I watch it, I try to spot the divers pulling them around.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:20

thelostdragon wrote:If it is a German dub for a big budget film, I couldn't care less, though. It wouldn't make sense to let you listen to the great German dubs, though since you don't speak our language.

I wouldn't if I did. Great and dub to me don't go together.

Sony make some of the best English dubs in the business they're still awful to my ears. The quality of the actual dub isn't relevant to me.

thelostdragon wrote:Why would you? The number of the foreign language films you guys get is extremely small, maybe almost non-existant apart from some exceptional Zhang Yimou-film.

Oh we get way more than just a few Chinese flicks. Obviously not on the scale of English language films but it's definitely healthy.

Easily enough to warrant dubbing them but it's just no the culture plus they tend to be orientated towards a different market who have no problem with subtitles.

thelostdragon wrote:Funny, isn't it?

That is funny but just watch some German TV.

thelostdragon wrote:Like Andy Lau getting dubbed often in Mandarin films? Wouldn't that have to do something with the fact that you don't understand the language?

Obviously partly but way more because it's also a Chinese language. So for me anyway fits much better.

This is "very" much my exception to the rule. I can barley understand a word of Thai but if Infernal Affairs was in Thai I wouldn't watch it.

HungFist wrote:A recent study showed that 100% of finnish people believe they've never seen a dubbed movie. The actual number however is 87%. The rest didn't know english isn't the original language of Jackie Chan's Hong Kong movies

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:25

Thai dubbing sucks.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 23 Feb 2007, 23:32

bradavon wrote:
thelostdragon wrote:If it is a German dub for a big budget film, I couldn't care less, though. It wouldn't make sense to let you listen to the great German dubs, though since you don't speak our language.
I wouldn't if I did. Great and dub to me don't go together.

That's what I thought.

Jet Li's High Risk was on finnish TV some months back and I immediately switched off when I saw it was an enlish dubbed version. I really wanted to see that film but there was no way I'd watch it dubbed. Finnish dub, if I ever ran into one, would be even worse.

captainjoe · Post by **captainjoe** » 24 Feb 2007, 05:47

The Number 23: 2/5

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 24 Feb 2007, 11:24

Terkel In Trouble was a recent uk theatrical release that was released dubbed.The first live action Asterix movie was as well.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2007, 19:20

Election - 3/5

Thought it was OK but not my type of movie TBH. A bit dull

Not sure why I didnt like it.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 24 Feb 2007, 19:29

hey,

worth seeing the second part though grim as it expands on characters seen relatively little in part 1 (Louis Koo's mainly).