What general film/series have you just seen.. marks out of 5

[bradavon]

I'll get my coat . Long shift at work.

[saltysam]

The Fly 3.5/5 Haven't seen this Cronenberg film since the vhs days and it holds up really well.running a lean 95 minutes the effects are still impressive and the films works on a few levels.The BD transfer is solid if unspectacular.

[gasteropod]

That film really freaked me out when I was younger, and I found the ending really upsetting. Good film!

[HungFist]

then the deleted scenes from 2010 - A Space Odyssey, now this!

What 2010 deleted scenes?

Where's the "shoot myself in the head" smiley when I need it???



ok, now I feel better.

They found 17 minutes of deleted scenes for 2001 recently. There was a lot of talk about it, but I haven't been following it. Just read the headlines

[luckystars]

Doug Trumble found them in preparing for a book he's doing (I think) and that the footage was pristine but no plans to do anything with it yet other than put shots in the book.

[grim_tales]

Maybe for a 45th AE Blu Ray?

[luckystars]

Maybe for a 45th AE Blu Ray?

Yeah. I think a extended cut would be a sensitive thing as it's Kubrick - but you never know!

[thelostdragon]

Sergie Leone spent so much time with the look and didn't seem to care about the sound.

You should really watch the special features. I don't remember which DVD's special features it was mentioned in, but it said that sometimes Leone would spend days shifting around the sound effect of a barking dog or other ambient noise. I think he actually cared about the sound a lot. That being said, the German dubbing is great.

[luckystars]

Germans always say the German dubs are great. Funny that!

[gasteropod]

Germans always say the German dubs are great. Funny that!

I'm pretty sure it's just LD every time

[Markgway]

Why not hire people who can speak English and shoot in sync sound (or whatever it's called)?

Italian genre movies never used sync-sound (pepla, spaghetti westerns, giallos, etc). But the majority were designed to be shown in English and that's why they hired western lead actors (the three stars of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly are all American). I doubt Leone could afford to import an entire cast! Supporting roles would always be cast locally (Italy, Spain, etc) and finding fluent English speakers among them might not always be so easy. Besides, with no sound it wasn't considered a dealbreaker. Lip sync could be fixed in post. Hong Kong Cinema shot silent until the mid-90s and mostly the actors were speaking the same language.

[gasteropod]

Except we now have the odd few Chinese films which are half-dubbed Cantonese/Mandarin, e.g. So Close and CJ7, that is fucking annoying!

[Markgway]

Except we now have the odd few Chinese films which are half-dubbed Cantonese/Mandarin, e.g. So Close and CJ7, that is fucking annoying!

Lol, yeah, all these mainland co-productions present a new problem.

[bradavon]

Where's the "shoot myself in the head" smiley when I need it???

You said 2010, not I.

They found 17 minutes of deleted scenes for 2001 recently. There was a lot of talk about it, but I haven't been following it. Just read the headlines

Really? WOW!

@ Lucky Stars: Thanks.

You should really watch the special features. I don't remember which DVD's special features it was mentioned in, but it said that sometimes Leone would spend days shifting around the sound effect of a barking dog or other ambient noise. I think he actually cared about the sound a lot. That being said, the German dubbing is great.

Thanks. I watched that. I meant vocals, not sound. My mistake.

Germans always say the German dubs are great. Funny that!

True . They have a culture of dubbing. I could never see a Dutchman saying that.

I doubt Leone could afford to import an entire cast!

Do what countless Brits filmmakers do and move to American then.

Except we now have the odd few Chinese films which are half-dubbed Cantonese/Mandarin, e.g. So Close and CJ7, that is fucking annoying!

That is weird in So Close. Neither soundtrack is perfect. I went for the Cantonese soundtrack. I don't mind it here. I cannot speak Chinese anyway. Hypocritical? Yes but it doesn't bother me, so I don't care.

[HungFist]

Where's the "shoot myself in the head" smiley when I need it???

You said 2010, not I.

I know, that's why I wanted to shoot myself.

[bradavon]

So you did. I thought you wanted to shoot me, there's a queue. Get in line .

[thelostdragon]

Germans always say the German dubs are great. Funny that!

That's because German dubbing is the most professional in the world. Brad's right, we have had a culture of dubbing for almost a century now. That's why it is so professional. The fact that I acknowledge that doesn't mean that I prefer it. I'll always prefer the original language except for some films I grew up watching.

By the way, not only Germans say that German dubs are great. All non-Germans that I know who have studied the language came to realise how good German dubbing is. So I think unless one speaks German one can't understand why German-speaking people can enjoy a German dub.

[bradavon]

Enjoy a dub? Brad shudders. It maybe technically good but good overall? I still cannot see it.

For obvious reasons we don't have a culture of dubbing here, instead most British folk just don't bother with a film unless it's in English. So basically anything that isn't British or American gets ignored (by the masses).

Any idea why there is that culture Lost Dragon? It seems to be a mixed bag in France, dubbing goes on but subtitles are also loved. In Holland only kids films get dubbed, otherwise it's 100% subtitles.

[gasteropod]

The Beyond: 1/5

[Markgway]

I doubt Leone could afford to import an entire cast!

Do what countless Brits filmmakers do and move to American then.

[HungFist]

The Beyond: 1/5

[gasteropod]

Come on then, tell me what you think is good about it.

[HungFist]

Come on then, tell me what you think is good about it.

Superbly atmospheric. Awesome soundtrack. One of the best endings in any horror movie. 4/5

[gasteropod]

I disagree with all three points, and would like to add: terrible acting, ridiculously fake special effects (those fake spiders walking towards his head, oh my God I laughed), zombies that just slowly keep banging into doors (scary??), complete lack of narrative, all it kept doing was repeating that it's one of the 7 gates of Hell, such a chore to sit through!

[HungFist]

the acting is pretty funny and the guy has a revolver with unlimited bullets, but I can't believe you diss the special effects So great.