Machete

[romerojpg]

Yeah Planet Terror grows on me the more I watch it really it does look exactly the same style, tone and gore levels of PT, which is a good thing. Hell they even use plenty of the cast as well

[saltysam]

I Never thought i'd see the day that i'd see a movie which has Danny Trejo & Steven Seagal as the 2 main stars & De Niro in Alba in support

[HungFist]

Fuck you people.

Yeah, it looked like CG but otherwise the trailer is so funny that I forgive it for now and judge final product when its out.

And I'm shocked to hear veteran b-film viewers like Marshall to complain about the lack of humor. IMHO, the fucking disease that plagues modern exploitation tributes is the damn post modern humor. The good old exploitation flms are so cool because they are not intentionally funny... well, they are a little bit often, yes, but they find the thin bloody line between ridiculous and badass... some of my friends don't get it. It's black and white to them, they either wanna laugh at it, or see it dead serious, when in reality it's right in the middle, a little bit of both, a grin.

[bradavon]

I hate the overuse of CGI but oddly never CGI blood doesn't bother me at all. I don't pay much attention to whether it's squibs or CGI though.

[Marshall]

And I'm shocked to hear veteran b-film viewers like Marshall to complain about the lack of humor. IMHO, the fucking disease that plagues modern exploitation tributes is the damn post modern humor. The good old exploitation flms are so cool because they are not intentionally funny... well, they are a little bit often, yes, but they find the thin bloody line between ridiculous and badass...

I agree with most of this, and I watched the trailer again, but more attentively, to see I missed anything "good" and to try to determine why it didn't work for me.

First, most of the 70s exploitation movies I like ARE funny. Sometimes it is because a witty genius like Jack Hill or Norifumi Suzuki made it, other times it's an unintentional camp classic like SATAN'S CHILDREN. I am not "up" for stuff like THRILLER: A CRUEL PICTURE. Just not my cup of poop, and I certainly don't begrudge anyone's enjoyment of it or MACHETE. Both are better than 90% of the stuff out there.

I did not care for the look of the trailer. Part of it is all the CGI--a deal breaker for me. I'm one of those potty-pants who cannot stand it. Too bad for me! But also the editing was super-obnoxious. What was with all those black frames? Jump-cuts are one thing, but that strobing was seizure-inducing. But ultimately I guess I am more interested in the humor because it doesn't require horribly fake-looking, distracting computer animation. This trailer was all about the "violence," except I could not take it at all seriously because the physics were so wrong. What works in a Warner Brothers cartoon does not play well for me in a film of this nature.* I prefer the DEATH RACE 2000 model of social satire and plausible gore. I'd rather see an electrical wire up someone's pant-leg (to detonate a squib) or a boom mic in-frame than a knife cutting through someone like butter because there is no physical resistance (since it is animated in in post production, along with some cartoony bloodspray.

So, sorry about the pontificating. Just wanted to try to EXPLAIN why I am not into this or modern films generally. Not saying anyone else should feel this way.

*Although I can handle a film like Jackson's BRAIN DEAD. Practical effects make implausible effects easier for me to forgive.

[Shingster]

The trailer's obviously been made to put bums on seats post Crank/Rambo and not to appeal just to the classic B-movie fanboys so the editing was obviously going to displease that demographic, this is why I never put any stock in trailers. I'm surprised it's been described as humorless though as I thought the intestine sequence was anything but!

[bradavon]

I really hope this does well and we see more Rambo style gore fests. I've been so fed up with the lack lustre action films of the past few years. Predators is so much better than AVP because it doesn't shy away from the violence and has an 80s action feel to it.

We're in trouble when a bunch of 40-50 somethings (except for Statham) can likely make a better action film than the new guys.

[luckystars]

Actually I though Predators was no better than AVP1, or Predator 2 for that matter. Can't speak for AVP2 though...yet

Marshall have you seen Planet Terror? Did you enjoy that?

I think this latest Machete trailer lies between the other 2 I've seen. One sells it as being amazing and the other makes it look crap. Could all be in the editing. Seriously

Amazing cult style trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4lzeaORGy0

Bog standard mainstream trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I16020r--oM

I think they look worlds apart


Just a thought

[romerojpg]

I really hope this does well and we see more Rambo style gore fests. I've been so fed up with the lack lustre action films of the past few years. Predators is so much better than AVP because it doesn't shy away from the violence and has an 80s action feel to it.

We're in trouble when a bunch of 40-50 somethings (except for Statham) can likely make a better action film than the new guys.

Universal Soldier Resurrection - now that's the bomb! blows shit like Predators away in every way. Old guys kicking arse like gods! thats the real film to see, well that and Rambo

[luckystars]

Universal Soldier Resurrection = Great Film

[bradavon]

Actually I though Predators was no better than AVP1

Really? WOW! AVP1 played like a 12A but Predators is definitely it's 15 rating. It had a really ugly modern glossy CGI look to it too. Whereas most of the time you could see the jungle was real.

Bog standard mainstream trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I16020r--oM

That trailer couldn't make it look any more different. It looks pretty rubbish in that one but then that's the PG-13 happy trailer.

It's released "Friday 26 November 2010" in the UK btw.

[Markgway]

Universal Soldier Resurrection - now that's the bomb!

It's a bomb alright.

[grim_tales]

I prefer the cult style trailer. OK it will probably still be a cheesy film but it makes you want to see it more.
Michelle Rodriguez looks amazing in it.

[romerojpg]

Universal Soldier Resurrection - now that's the bomb!

It's a bomb alright.

You didnt like it! crikey I thought it was amazing, up there with the best few films of the year by a mile for me. I expected trash, I got relentless action and some stunning scenes of carnage and direction.
If Machete can be that good, bring it on now!!!

[Markgway]

You didnt like it! crikey I thought it was amazing, up there with the best few films of the year by a mile for me. I expected trash, I got relentless action and some stunning scenes of carnage and direction.

Nope. Thought it was mindless drivel with endless scenes of beefy non-entities smashing into each other. Yawn.

[gasteropod]

Nope. Thought it was mindless drivel with endless scenes of beefy non-entities smashing into each other. Yawn.

Like Transformers 2 then lol

[romerojpg]

But with 5% of that budget

Maybe you will like the next one when it hits dvd next year, I know I will be buying that in a heartbeat.

[bradavon]

I prefer the cult style trailer. OK it will probably still be a cheesy film but it makes you want to see it more.
Michelle Rodriguez looks amazing in it.

Have you seen the uncut trailer I posted? If you cannot play 720p videos, here it is on YouTube (try the 720p link first):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT6RVR3_pjU

Surprisingly you don't need to confirm you're 18 to watch it.

[Markgway]

Maybe you will like the next one when it hits dvd next year, I know I will be buying that in a heartbeat.

Enough already... lol

They keep making sequels to a film that wasn't much good in the first place.

[grim_tales]

I prefer the cult style trailer. OK it will probably still be a cheesy film but it makes you want to see it more.
Michelle Rodriguez looks amazing in it.

Have you seen the uncut trailer I posted? If you cannot play 720p videos, here it is on YouTube (try the 720p link first):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT6RVR3_pjU

Surprisingly you don't need to confirm you're 18 to watch it.

Thanks Brad. I hadnt seen the uncut trailer, only the made up cult one and the ordinary PG-13 type trailer.
Must... see... this That uncut trailer looks great.
It'll definitely be an 18 in the UK then

[romerojpg]

It'll definitely be an 18 in the UK then

Not really, that could go into a 15 easy as its fun.

[bradavon]

I'm expecting 15 too. Predators is pretty tough too, by today's standards. I reckon the BBFC will see it's not meant to be taken seriously.

[romerojpg]

I'm expecting 15 too. Predators is pretty tough too, by today's standards.

Hey I am not sure you saw the same film as me as Predators was pretty tame by any standards.

Mind you Machete may get an 18 for 2 reasons, if they say the C word, and if it has rape/violent sex in it as hey Planet Terror had the whole strange rape stuff going on with melting knob haha guess it depends on how far the film is going.

[bradavon]

I'm expecting any sexual violence, are you?

I guess Predators was pretty tame. My mistake but it did warrant a 15.

[romerojpg]

Sexual violence I am expecting that for sure, it seems that sort of film. That could well bump it way into the 18 category, even if it is a bit if a piss take. Guess we will see soon when it comes out