Fearless (Huo Yuan-Jia): R2UK vs R1US vs R4

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Jan 2007, 20:36

Nice one thanks Mr. Tom. Why on earth it was cut is beyond me.

I'm going to wait until about March though just to be as sure as I can be about the DC but then get the UK R2.

EDIT: How come the deleted scene has HOH subs???

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 03 Jan 2007, 13:23

R4 caps:-
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-2.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-3.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-4.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-5.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/ ... ssr4-6.jpg

ZOMG CAMEO APPEARANCE!!!111!!!1

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 03 Jan 2007, 13:37

I guess you're one of those people who thought that's Yeoh.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 03 Jan 2007, 15:48

To be fair it is quite like her.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 03 Jan 2007, 15:54

I think maybe the R4 is marginally the best, followed by the R2, then the R1. It's a close thing between all three though. Of course, the R1's dubtitles rule it out, unless you need to have that deleted scene.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 03 Jan 2007, 15:58

Actually, I'd say that R4 is the exact same disc as the R2UK, since it is dual-encoded for R2/4. So why that Mark's R2 looks brighter and lacks the green tint is probably down to him not using PowerDVD (which I presume that Tom used, I did).

In real world tests, all 3 DVDs probably looking exactly the same, would be my wager.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 03 Jan 2007, 16:00

Markgway wrote:Of course, the R1's dubtitles rule it out, unless you need to have that deleted scene.

Or if you aim on buying the HD-DVD/DVD combo.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Jan 2007, 18:49

Based solely on those captures I'd say actually it's the R1 and R4 which look the same with UK R2 looking different.

EvaUnit02 wrote:In real world tests, all 3 DVDs probably looking exactly the same, would be my wager.

I suspect you're right.

How does the R4 differ to UK R2? It's the same right? And also proper non-dubtitles/non-HOH subs right?

Cheers

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 03 Jan 2007, 18:52

How would not using PowerDVD change the appearence?

Surely the screenshot can only capture what's there?

Maybe each print is marginally different? That's not uncommon otherwise why would we bother comparing in the first place?

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 03 Jan 2007, 18:59

All PCs will convert to a Jpeg slightly different every single time, thats the nature of a Jpeg, no image is ever the same compression.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 03 Jan 2007, 19:08

romerojpg wrote:All PCs will convert to a Jpeg slightly different every single time, thats the nature of a Jpeg, no image is ever the same compression.

Exactly, which is why using the PNG format is better, there is no loss of information on the image

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 03 Jan 2007, 19:21

I like the film, but dont want any of these shitty no extras vdds

I am getting sick to death of them wasting time and putting out a film on a dvd with no extra content at all, at least try you morons! so I will wait, worst that happens is it never comes and I get the normal dvd for a few quid.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 03 Jan 2007, 19:24

i have the hd-dvd /dvd combo, pity about the dubtitles but for the superior pq for me i can live with it

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 03 Jan 2007, 19:32

Show a few caps from that HD dvd

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Jan 2007, 19:57

Unless Salty has a capture card he won't be able to, they won't be accurate anyway.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 03 Jan 2007, 21:33

tbh all versions i've seen of this have looked pretty decent,including the subtitled boot i first owned which was framed around 1:85:1.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Jan 2007, 21:40

Ow oh yeah it's supposed to be 2.35:1. I wonder if at 1.85:1 is open matt or cropped.

Have you checked?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 03 Jan 2007, 22:43

bradavon wrote:How does the R4 differ to UK R2?

It doesn't.

And also proper non-dubtitles/non-HOH subs right?

Yes, subs are all good.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 03 Jan 2007, 22:48

Might as well get the R2 then. Cheers duders.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 03 Jan 2007, 22:59

@Brad:
The 1:85 print is open matte.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Jan 2007, 01:17

Cool.

It would be nice if 2.35:1 films like this the 1.85:1 print would also get released.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 04 Jan 2007, 01:24

Yeah, Fearless in 1:85 is like a whole 'nother movie:

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... c&start=80

I knew I had mentioned this somewhere before.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 04 Jan 2007, 01:35

So it's Super 35 then?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 04 Jan 2007, 01:38

It was obviously shot in 1.85:1, that's what we can tell. What the director later intended it to be is another matter. If he wanted it to be 2.35:1, he should have shot it this way, as then you won't have to crop from the top/bottom/both.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 04 Jan 2007, 01:51

It's next to impossible to shoot a film at 1.85 and then matte it to 2.35. It would be unwatchable. It was either shot in scope or Super 35. If Tom says there's more image when it's shown at 1.85 then it must be Super 35.