The Amazon Bargains Thread!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Mar 2009, 16:22

R1 could be the longest? Or just the same as R2. 107m NTSC = 102m PAL (I think), those times you gave would match.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:02

bradavon wrote:I thought it was agreed the UK and USA were the same pre-cut cut, no?

We don't know yet. Waiting for someone to compare them. If all versions are cut the same I'll go for the R2.

What's cut from the UK one?

I was told the final fight was trimmed but have no further details.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:08

bradavon wrote:It certainly was, utter rubbish. The only recent Bond that is worse, is Die Another Day (easily the worst of all of them).

Nonsense. QOS was a solid action film. So what if it wasn't Casino Royale? It was better than MANY other Bonds including the two Roger Moore's you mention below.

I saw "For Your Eyes Only" on TV again yesterday. I'd forgotten how good it is. So much better than the pantomime "A View to a Kill" from the week before. It's maybe one of his best, playing it mostly straight. Too many Moore Bonds went for camp over realism. I liked how it had no dungeon lair or over the top villain.

Come on! For Your Eyes Only is almost as dumb as Moonraker in parts. Bond playfully slapping a bald Blofeld when he's just come from visiting his wife's grave! The jailbait blonde skater offering her body to a man old enough to be her grandfather. A car chase in a VW Beetle. Maggie Thatcher talking to a Parrot. Bill Conti's ridiculously bad score.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:10

Thank God Bond turned the teenage skater down. That was creepy

I thought she was at least 16

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:30

Markgway wrote:QOS was a solid action film..

Too bad that we missed all of the action, on account of how badly it was shot.

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:46

Hey,

Not fair - the epic opening car chase, and that especially brutal fight in the apartment (one on one) were what kept QoS from being a total disappointment for me

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:00

luckystars wrote:Hey,

Not fair - the epic opening car chase, and that especially brutal fight in the apartment (one on one) were what kept QoS from being a total disappointment for me

I didn't see either of those things, all I saw was a blur

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:44

The opening car chase was superb IMO.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:47

grim_tales wrote:Thank God Bond turned the teenage skater down. That was creepy
I thought she was at least 16

Are talking about Lynn Holly Johnson's character? (haven't seen it) she was 23 when For Your Eyes Only came out.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:50

saltysam wrote:Region 2 runs 1:41:53 according to my dvd drive.

I'm surprised you went for the DVD. Is it for the kids?

Markgway wrote:We don't know yet. Waiting for someone to compare them. If all versions are cut the same I'll go for the R2.

Thanks.

Markgway wrote:Nonsense. QOS was a solid action film.

Action it is, solid it is not.

Markgway wrote:So what if it wasn't Casino Royale?

I'm not one of the ones who was expecting it to be. I was still very let down, as a film in it's own right.

Markgway wrote:It was better than MANY other Bonds including the two Roger Moore's you mention below.

I disagree. Golden Gun is dumb in places but not enough to hinder it (ala Die Another Day). For Your Eyes Only is played surprisingly mostly straight, especially for a Moore Bond. It also has no dungeon lair or over the top villain.

Markgway wrote:Bond playfully slapping a bald Blofeld when he's just come from visiting his wife's grave!

To be fair, that is only the first few minutes. Lets face it all Moore Bonds are dumb in places (it's just how they were filmed) but what "For Your Eyes Only" is, is a well made film. Something QOS certainly isn't. In other words "it holds up".

Markgway wrote:A car chase in a VW Beetle.

What was wrong with that? It's more realistic than a super duper sports car. I'll give you the other points but like I said all Moore films are dumb to an extent.

Markgway wrote:Bill Conti's ridiculously bad score.

I rarely remember scores or have a problem with them. You forgot how Moore deliberately and vindictively kicks the car over the cliff, containing the villain of the piece.

Besides QOS and FYEO aren't really comparable, they're of a different age. My point being QOS was a poorly made film, enough of (IMO).

grim_tales wrote:Thank God Bond turned the teenage skater down. That was creepy

It was supposed to be creepy. That would've been one step too far, which I doubt they would've contemplated.

saltysam wrote:Are talking about Lynn Holly Johnson's character? (haven't seen it) she was 23 when For Your Eyes Only came out.

Yes. I'm sure she was playing someone much younger though.

luckystars wrote:Not fair - the epic opening car chase, and that especially brutal fight in the apartment (one on one) were what kept QoS from being a total disappointment for me

I've no problem with the action really, just pretty much everything else. It was so poorly executed.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:52

I Didn't get the DVD Brad, it was my brother's copy he'd bought from Tesco

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2009, 20:24

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Markgway wrote:QOS was a solid action film..
Too bad that we missed all of the action, on account of how badly it was shot.

Still better than The Bourne sequels.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2009, 20:39

bradavon wrote:I'm not one of the ones who was expecting it to be. I was still very let down, as a film in it's own right.

Ach, to each his own. You watch Golden Gun, I'll watch Solace. And then we're both happy.

I disagree. Golden Gun is dumb in places but not enough to hinder it (ala Die Another Day).

Golden Gun is worse than Die Another Day. The first half hour is good - but it falls apart when Bond gets to Asia. Britt Ekland got right on my tits. Maud Adams should've been the main girl. Something they rectified with Octopussy. I'm curious why you can forgive the "dumb" bits in the Moore films but not DAD? The CGI surfing is K-rap but I enjoyed the rest as popcorn fun. Maybe you need to give it another go on DVD? Like you I wasn't impressed at the cinema.

To be fair, that is only the first few minutes.

Yes, but it instantly strips any genuine emotion from Bond. For Your Eyes Only has very good parts - but also some really bad parts that make it an uneven entry. The Spy Who Loved Me is a better film and Octopussy is more entertaining IMO.

What was wrong with that? It's more realistic than a super duper sports car.

James Bond in a fucking Love Bug(!)

You forgot how Moore deliberately and vindictively kicks the car over the cliff, containing the villain of the piece.

That's the best scene. Although I also like the mountain climb. Like I said very good IN PARTS.

Besides QOS and FYEO aren't really comparable, they're of a different age.

True.

It was supposed to be creepy. That would've been one step too far, which I doubt they would've contemplated... Yes. I'm sure she was playing someone much younger though.

I think she's supposed to be between 16 and 18. When she says she's not a virgin I almost groaned with discomfort. I actually felt for poor Rog having to do that scene - it made him look like an old man. Funny thing is the actress in question - Lynn Holly Johnson - was actually only ONE YEAR younger than the French girl playing his lover - Carole Bouquet.

Found this on the IMDB: "The video release is missing a scene in the skating change room where the teenage Bibi Dahl tries to seduce James Bond by lyeing on the table and removing her panties from underneath her skirt."

Anyone seen this scene? Doesn't ring any bells? Must be also cut from the DVD.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Mar 2009, 21:30

I thought she was playing 16-18 too, even though she's 23. She certainly LOOKS young.
Mark said she was jailbait which implies she was playing under 16

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 24 Mar 2009, 22:02

Markgway wrote:...the teenage Bibi Dahl tries to seduce James Bond by lyeing on the table and removing her panties from underneath her skirt."

Anyone seen this scene? Doesn't ring any bells? Must be also cut from the DVD.

No but sounds like they cut out a bit of realism generally lacking from the Bonds.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Mar 2009, 22:20

The BBFC make no mention of this being cut

The UK DVD is a 12 now and supposedly uncut. I have the R1 UE

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 24 Mar 2009, 22:24

Perhaps it was precut for the home formats.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 24 Mar 2009, 22:57

QOS? It was never specifically cut by the BBFC, apparently the filmmakers put on an informal screening for the BBFC to get advice on what sort of rating to expect etc. I don't know if they showed them a full cut of the film or just certain scenes that were more mature in content; but anyway the BBFC decided what they saw would probably achieve a 15 rating, and suggested toning down one or two scenes to safeguard a 12A. So I believe Forster then went back and edited the film down slightly and submitted this edited down version to the BBFC for classification, which passed uncut for 12A.

The MPAA passed QOS uncut a month or so before the BBFC officially rated it, so the big question is what version of the film did the MPAA recieve? Did Forster send them the precut print that was sent to the informal BBFC screening, or was it a print that had already been seen by the BBFC and had the edits applied (but not officially submitted to the BBFC yet).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Mar 2009, 23:35

Wasn't it known by now that Casino Royale had different cuts? I'm sure it was. Meaning I suspect QOS is the same cut everywhere.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Mar 2009, 00:03

Bah! Missed the Amazon and Tesco offers.

Turns out that the same pre-cut version has been released in all territories.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 01 Apr 2009, 10:42

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gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 02 Apr 2009, 16:48

I daresay this is a misprice, the pre-order for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 25th anniversary 3-disc set is £4.98. It's the first two series of the show, plus unseen episodes and bonus features.

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Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 02 Apr 2009, 17:48

Quick. Someone tell Grim!!!

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 02 Apr 2009, 17:58

Markgway wrote:Quick. Someone tell Grim!!!

Sesame Street is already finished, so it's already past his bedtime. Let's call his house and wake him up!

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 13 Apr 2009, 18:31

Even with the exchange rate this is £8.58 delivered- Trans-Siberian Blu-Ray. i've heard good things about this

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