What Have You Just Seen... Marks Out of 5
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Singin' In The Rain - 4.5/5
I found this film so much fun, and greater than the sum of its' parts.
Consider an affectionate parodic look back at Hollywood's early days and the trials of making a talking movie, (getting the sound right and so on and having a "good" screen voice) the film contains a mish-mash of Arthur Freed's favourite songs from the 20's and 30's (there's only 1 number unique to the movie - Make 'Em Laugh), the only reason to call the film Singin' In The Rain is because the number turned out so well, little Debbie Renoylds was thrown in at the deep end with Gene Kelly, and to top it off Kelly performed the famous title song with a heavy cold.
Yet I had a bring grin on my face when the movie was over - the choreography is great, Donald O Connor is funny too.
Jackie Chan said he got the idea to use scene props in his fights from watching Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire perform.
I found this film so much fun, and greater than the sum of its' parts.
Consider an affectionate parodic look back at Hollywood's early days and the trials of making a talking movie, (getting the sound right and so on and having a "good" screen voice) the film contains a mish-mash of Arthur Freed's favourite songs from the 20's and 30's (there's only 1 number unique to the movie - Make 'Em Laugh), the only reason to call the film Singin' In The Rain is because the number turned out so well, little Debbie Renoylds was thrown in at the deep end with Gene Kelly, and to top it off Kelly performed the famous title song with a heavy cold.
Yet I had a bring grin on my face when the movie was over - the choreography is great, Donald O Connor is funny too.
Jackie Chan said he got the idea to use scene props in his fights from watching Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire perform.
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You seen Singin' In The Rain Mark? Not usually into movie musicals, but not for nothing is it one of the most beloved of all time (IMO). I really enjoyed it, its very joyous, in particular the title number (Kelly doesnt mind getting drenched because he's fallen in love with Debbie Renoylds). Loved the part of the apparently ditzy, scheming Lina as well.
One line was apparently overdubbed as well -
Don Lockwood: Oh, you're going to New York and then some day we'll all hear of you, won't we? Kathy Selden as Juliet, as Lady Macbeth, as King Lear. You'll have to wear a beard for that one of course.
Kathy Selden: Laugh all you want, but at least the stage is a dignified profession.
Don Lockwood: [scoffing] Dignified profession.
i realised that his mouth doesn't move properly when he scoffs 'dignified profession' so i pressed rewind, and if you look carefully, you'll see he actually says:
[scoffing] 'Dignified my ass'
Its' been said that Gene Kelly, though the perfectionist dancer and choreographer, wasnt a very nice person, and reduced Debbie to tears during "Singin' In the Rain". He insulted her for not being able to dance.
Ironically, Fred Astaire, who was hanging around the MGM lot, found Debbie crying and he comforted her, and helped her with her dancing.
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As documented in Singin' in the Rain, with the diva Lina, many silent stars in Hollywood lost their careers because their speaking voices did not match their screen personalities. It happened to people like John Gilbert who had a high speaking voice - for example his "Romeo and Juliet" section in "The Hollywood Revue of 1929" and "His Glorious Night" (1929) were both laughed off the screen.
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Supernatural ep. 22 4/5
ARGH!! bastards!! evil evil evil!! why do they make you wait for the endings!!!
sam and dean and their dad laid in a car after being hit by a lorry, dunno whether they are dead or alive evil evil evil
awesome series tho cant wait for the next series! whenever that will come, need closure...
ARGH!! bastards!! evil evil evil!! why do they make you wait for the endings!!!
sam and dean and their dad laid in a car after being hit by a lorry, dunno whether they are dead or alive evil evil evil
awesome series tho cant wait for the next series! whenever that will come, need closure...
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Singin' in the Rain had to be one of my favorite films when I was a kid. 
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That was what I also heard as well - some now say Gilbert's voice was really no different to anyone else's TBH. One incident supposed was when Gilbert went to LB Mayer (head of MGM) with a story he was interested in doing, about a boy whose mother was a hooker. Unfortunately, Mayer was a very conservative, upright person.Markgway wrote:I heard that there was nothing wrong with John Gilbert's voice and that these were rumours spead by MGM to destroy his career.
I have seen Singin' in the Rain. Fun musical as I recall.
I always preferred Fred Astaire to Gene Kelly.
Mayer: Are you telling me that the boy's mother is a whore?
Gilbert: Whats wrong with that? My mother was a whore.
And Mayer hit him.
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Seven Swords 2005
Wow, I really liked it. Didn´t feel that 2 1/2 hours were too long.
It was great to see Lau Kar-leung again. Besides a good acting performance by Charlie Yeung, I especially liked the very charismatic baddie.
The final fight somehow reminded me of the fight between Donnie and Jet Li OuatiC 2. The fight in Seven Swords isn´t as perfect as the one in Ouatic 2, but the set looks quite similar.
Overall I have to say that for me Seven Swords is besides S.P.L. the best picture from HK in 2005. It would have also deserved the award for "Best picture" to my mind.
Looking foward to seeing a sequal, if there will one day be one...
4/5
Wow, I really liked it. Didn´t feel that 2 1/2 hours were too long.
It was great to see Lau Kar-leung again. Besides a good acting performance by Charlie Yeung, I especially liked the very charismatic baddie.
The final fight somehow reminded me of the fight between Donnie and Jet Li OuatiC 2. The fight in Seven Swords isn´t as perfect as the one in Ouatic 2, but the set looks quite similar.
Overall I have to say that for me Seven Swords is besides S.P.L. the best picture from HK in 2005. It would have also deserved the award for "Best picture" to my mind.
Looking foward to seeing a sequal, if there will one day be one...
4/5
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That's the same story I heard. Probably true. In those days studio heads had enormous powers and could make or break careers.grim_tales wrote:That was what I also heard as well - some now say Gilbert's voice was really no different to anyone else's TBH. One incident supposed was when Gilbert went to LB Mayer (head of MGM) with a story he was interested in doing, about a boy whose mother was a hooker. Unfortunately, Mayer was a very conservative, upright person.
Mayer: Are you telling me that the boy's mother is a whore?
Gilbert: Whats wrong with that? My mother was a whore.
And Mayer hit him.
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How?
In 1934, Gilbert placed an ad in "The Hollywood Reporter" that read "MGM will neither offer me work, nor release me from my contract".
BTW, the Mayer/Gilbert apparently started when Mayer told a nervous Gilbert (on the night of his marriage to Greta Garbo) that it was better to "sleep with her than marry her" and Gilbert punched him. From then, the pair were enemies.
In 1934, Gilbert placed an ad in "The Hollywood Reporter" that read "MGM will neither offer me work, nor release me from my contract".
BTW, the Mayer/Gilbert apparently started when Mayer told a nervous Gilbert (on the night of his marriage to Greta Garbo) that it was better to "sleep with her than marry her" and Gilbert punched him. From then, the pair were enemies.
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Lost Season 2 Ep 3 - 4/5
Not as good as the first 2 but still very good. Obviously it doesnt really answer many questions.
If Desmond is part of an experiment perhaps all the islanders are?
Sawyer is back on form, I laughed when he called one of the "others" (who looked like an African tribesman crossed with a Skull Island native from King Kong) "Shaft", LOL!
Not as good as the first 2 but still very good. Obviously it doesnt really answer many questions.
If Desmond is part of an experiment perhaps all the islanders are?
Sawyer is back on form, I laughed when he called one of the "others" (who looked like an African tribesman crossed with a Skull Island native from King Kong) "Shaft", LOL!
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I did like Locke's comment after viewing the film "We're going to have watch that again"
That did make me laugh.
Desmond keeps going on about how he thinks the world is going to end or something, but when pushed by Jack he said he "doubted very day" that something was going to happen. Eh?
LD did you watch this? Great epiosde.
I liked Locke's flashback, it was a good insight into his character.
Desmond keeps going on about how he thinks the world is going to end or something, but when pushed by Jack he said he "doubted very day" that something was going to happen. Eh?
LD did you watch this? Great epiosde.
I liked Locke's flashback, it was a good insight into his character.
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The Animatrix - 3.5/5
I found some of the short animations better than others. Final Flight of the Osiris looked amazing, with the same models as the Enter The Matrix game (I think, from what I remember) but had dialogue worthy of the video game (ie not very good
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However, some of the more Japanese influenced ones were far more interesting, like The Second Rennaisance, Kid's Story, World Record and the film-noirish Detective Story, which really added to the atmosphere by being made in black and white. It reminded me of Sin City in that respect.
I found some of the short animations better than others. Final Flight of the Osiris looked amazing, with the same models as the Enter The Matrix game (I think, from what I remember) but had dialogue worthy of the video game (ie not very good
However, some of the more Japanese influenced ones were far more interesting, like The Second Rennaisance, Kid's Story, World Record and the film-noirish Detective Story, which really added to the atmosphere by being made in black and white. It reminded me of Sin City in that respect.
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When you say 'same models' what do you mean?
For the record, I liked The Second Renaissance the most. Mainly because it acted as a prologue to the main story. Final Flight of the Osiris also gets points, not just for being eye-candy, but... well, mainly for being eye-candy.
Nicely structured, short-and-sweet, with the requisite number of thrills.
For the record, I liked The Second Renaissance the most. Mainly because it acted as a prologue to the main story. Final Flight of the Osiris also gets points, not just for being eye-candy, but... well, mainly for being eye-candy.

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I'm sure that the developers at Square would take that as a great insult or as a great compliment, depending on which part of Enter The Matrix you're talking about. If you're talking about comparing Osiris to the live footage, they'd see it as a compliment. If you're talking about the in-game graphics, there may be a few that might be annoyed at you 
The in-game graphics were functional. Shiny Entertainment couldn't spend too much time on them, with having such a strict release date an' all. They instead focused on the gameplay, which I'm glad of. The game doesn't look all shiny, but it plays really well.
I'm sure you're getting confused about something. Or maybe I am. I've been out of it for a while now...
The in-game graphics were functional. Shiny Entertainment couldn't spend too much time on them, with having such a strict release date an' all. They instead focused on the gameplay, which I'm glad of. The game doesn't look all shiny, but it plays really well.
I'm sure you're getting confused about something. Or maybe I am. I've been out of it for a while now...
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