Original Star Wars coming!!!!!!!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 May 2006, 12:34

Do you know Torsten Kaiser (sp?) I didnt realise this guy was a member of HTF, he worked on the restoration of "Metropolis" and "M", I think he did the German Leone SE's as well?

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sho ... 33&page=26

Good post from him.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 26 May 2006, 16:14

bradavon wrote:No your point was and is in black & white:

"many dvd companies use cinema prints and produce perfect dvds still."

Not true . But yes agreed about the reasons for not Remastering.

It is true. I could list loads of dvds produced from found home prints, but would you beleve me?

Anchor Bay for instance I know have done it many, many times and made superb dvd transfers still and I am sure many rare films have been lost for a very long time in origanal master state, so they have to resort to peoples prints knocking about in home collections

I personally dont even know why I am talking about Lucas at all, he is a dick and we all knew it from the start.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 26 May 2006, 17:58

without lucas there'd be no star wars

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 May 2006, 18:04

Interesting link Grim. I can't see anyone listening but still interesting.

The dude is spot on when he says it's the originals which have forever changed the way we view cinema, film, home entertainment, merchandise NOT the Altered versions.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 May 2006, 18:15

I can't decide whether to get them or not now, I'll decide nearer the time.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 May 2006, 18:37

Lucas has saved me £20-30 by messing up the transfers as far as I'm concerned.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 26 May 2006, 18:45

saltysam wrote:without lucas there'd be no star wars

Without Religion there would be more people alive today.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 May 2006, 19:12

saltysam wrote:without lucas there'd be no star wars

I agree, he should at least show respect to the fans and the O-OT, the O-OT made him the billonaire he is.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 May 2006, 19:15

romerojpg wrote:Without Religion there would be more people alive today.

That depends how you look at it.

Many people have found Religion helps them through the bad times, which otherwise they may have committed suicide.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 May 2006, 19:53

True.
If a person manipulates religion for his own ends, its the fault of the manipulative, evil person IMO, not the religion per se.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 May 2006, 20:20

Well the religion does mould the person but yes true not religion in it's raw form is evil.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 27 May 2006, 15:51

grim_tales wrote:I think he did the German Leone SE's as well?

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sho ... 33&page=26

Good post from him.

Yes, his company TLEfilm did the German AFOD/FAFDM SE's, as well as the remasters that Eureka used for Metropolis & M (Criterion did their own remaster, which is slightly inferior to this one).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 May 2006, 16:17

Are the German Leone's noticeably better than the MGM ones?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 27 May 2006, 16:53

bradavon wrote:Are the German Leone's noticeably better than the MGM ones?

I wouldn't know, I haven't seen the MGM remasters. I have seen the non-anamorphic unrestored MGM original releases though, the quality difference between them and the German remasters (which I own) is massive.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 27 May 2006, 17:20

The German Leones are not encoded for progressive playback but they look very nice otherwise and are worth it for the mono tracks

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 28 May 2006, 03:01

I'm sure religion has killed just a few more than suicide.

But this is way off topic even for me.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 28 May 2006, 11:09

Ivan Drago wrote:The German Leones are not encoded for progressive playback but they look very nice otherwise and are worth it for the mono tracks

But they are progressive, just not flagged for it - so there'll be some playback problems on PC DVD playing software and some projectors. Perfectly fine on your normal TV, they play without a hitch in 576p on my TV.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 28 May 2006, 11:10

Jedi is a recognised religion in the UK.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 May 2006, 11:13

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 May 2006, 11:15

gasteropod wrote:Haha bless you Grim, of course they'll be anamorphic

Guess we all spoke too soon eh?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 May 2006, 11:41

I guess the sad thing is its a win-win situation for Lucas, if we don't buy his substandard O-OT Lucas will say "I told you so - my 2004 SE's are better" and if we do buy it and its a hit, he has no incentive to release it again (if ever) to make it better.
In the original marketing blurb, the O-OT was definitely the USP of this release, and now they are just "bonuses"

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 28 May 2006, 13:21

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Ivan Drago wrote:The German Leones are not encoded for progressive playback but they look very nice otherwise and are worth it for the mono tracks
But they are progressive, just not flagged for it - so there'll be some playback problems on PC DVD playing software and some projectors. Perfectly fine on your normal TV, they play without a hitch in 576p on my TV.

If they aren't flagged, then does that make them interlaced - or non-progressive then?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 May 2006, 14:12

EvaUnit02 wrote:Jedi is a recognised religion in the UK.

It is? I'm sure it's not.

grim_tales wrote:
gasteropod wrote:Haha bless you Grim, of course they'll be anamorphic
Guess we all spoke too soon eh?

Grim where are you quoting from? Oh that's an old post.

USP???

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 28 May 2006, 14:25

Unique Selling Point, initially these were being sold with the OOT as the main attraction of the releases.
I dont want a substandard product and yet the originals may never be available again. Bah.

I'm sure its not Eva, I think that joke came from when the 2001 (?) UK census came out, that if enough people put "Jedi" where it said "Religion" then Jedi would become an official religion, or something.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jun 2006, 11:24

Still can't decide. I've never seen the O-OT on DVD before.