What general film/series have you just seen.. marks out of 5

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 31 Mar 2008, 18:58

Disturbia 2/5

Ok Hitchcockian "Rear Window" redux is entirely predictable but entertaining enough to make it worth a watch.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 31 Mar 2008, 19:31

2/5 = worth a watch? I'd have thought a film would have to be at least average to be worth a watch

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 31 Mar 2008, 19:46

Most films are with a watch,even below average ones.Hell you endlessly rewatch that Cruddy early 80's nearly unwatchable up it's own arse sci-fi "classic" BR don't you

anyway i clicked on your myspace link and see you are a 21 year old kid,as Disturbia is aimed at teenagers you'll probably rate it higher than me

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:20

HungFist wrote:It may be easier to understand if you also read the comment I was replying to

bradavon wrote: The 2 Disc SE contains the only cut now worth worrying about (The Final Director's Cut)

You reply made far less sense and made a far more fatuous point than the comment you were replying to.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:31

Shingster wrote:
HungFist wrote:It may be easier to understand if you also read the comment I was replying to

bradavon wrote: The 2 Disc SE contains the only cut now worth worrying about (The Final Director's Cut)
You reply made far less sense and made a far more fatuous point than the comment you were replying to.

The point was to make Brad realize how ignorant his statement was by making an equally ignorant opposite statement.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:38

saltysam wrote:you are a 21 year old kid

Isn't that a contradiction?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 31 Mar 2008, 23:22

Gees Louise guys does it freaking matter?

I've already explained what that comment meant. It wasn't ignorant, you're just reading way too much into what I supposedly meant, when I meant nothing of the sort.

For newbies to Blade Runner who probably wouldn't want to plump for the expensive 5 Disc UE The Final Cut is the only cut worth worrying about. If you find you love Blade Runner as much as I do then by all means knock yourself out and get the 5 Disc UE.

saltysam wrote:Most films are with a watch,even below average ones.Hell you endlessly rewatch that Cruddy early 80's nearly unwatchable up it's own arse sci-fi "classic" BR don't you

Really it's early 90s

. The 1982 Theatrical Cut is quite different from the Blade Runner we know and love today.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Apr 2008, 00:00

Brad, what makes you assume that all people who haven't seen Blade Runner yet would want to watch The Final Cut instead of one of the earlier versions? The only reason why I watched The Final Cut was because I had indeed seen the film about 8 times before.

The fact that I didn't hate the new version was a big surprise to me. But normally I wouldn't watch such a remix of any film. Now, I know that many people will enjoy old movies more if there's a bit of new and exciting cgi added, but certainly there's also a lot of people like me who normally think movies should be enjoyed as they originally were (a tricky subject in case of BR, admitted) or how they originally saw them.

And could you please explain where exactly I'm reading way too much into what you supposedly meant, instead of what you really meant? I was only referring to you saying "The 2 Disc SE contains the only cut now worth worrying about (The Final Director's Cut)". And then after saying I misunderstood you you go a repeat the same thing by saying "For newbies to Blade Runner who probably wouldn't want to plump for the expensive 5 Disc UE The Final Cut is the only cut worth worrying about.". Or do you think adding the word "newbie" makes it less ignorant?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Apr 2008, 00:09

Brad, what makes you assume that all people who haven't seen Blade Runner yet would want to watch The Final Cut instead of one of the earlier versions?

No assumption. I've already pointed out my comments are all "in my opinion".

I believe the 1992 Director's Cut, 2006 re-release DVD is still available for those who want to get that instead.

but certainly there's also a lot of people like me who normally think movies should be enjoyed as they originally were (a tricky subject in case of BR, admitted) or how they originally saw them.

Agreed, but as you have pointed out yourself this is not a normal situation. This is Blade Runner.

Considering even you have said the best cut is the Final Cut it would seem to make sense people check that out first. I've already explained twice what I meant by that controversial comment. I don't intend to repeat myself a third time.

You've managed to turn a harmless comment into a big debate, when all I was doing was giving my recommendation to Grim and Yi on which DVD they should probably pick up.

I've otherwise already said all I want to say on the subject in my previous post.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 01 Apr 2008, 00:21

EDIT: there was quite a bit less text in Brad's post when I stared writing this reply. This would look a bit different otherwise

Yes, but you have to remember there are also people who saw the film in theaters when it was originally released, and prefer that cut. That version was also available on VHS for years.

Plus, to some people who have never seen the film before the 5 disc version could ideal because it features all the versions. They can watch one version, and of they don't like it, they can pic another one without having to sell the old dvd and buy a new one. If I had not seen the film before I would buy the 5 dicer, although I don't care about the extras.

Besides, it's not like the 5 disc version costs 80€. It's 18£ at amazon and play.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Apr 2008, 00:41

bradavon wrote:
Markgway wrote:Blade Runner is massively overrated IMHO.
Is that because of it being overrated in your opinion or just a bad film in it's own right?

Not sure I would say it was a bad film, it's probably well-enough made. It just didn't click with me at all, and I did watch it twice.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Apr 2008, 00:44

Yi-Long wrote:I didnt actually know yet about Ford's character. If it was Star Wars and Darth Vader being Leiah's little sister, ok, everyone knows that already...

Aw shit, thanks. I was just about to watch Star Wars. Won't bother now.

Most of us have seen The Fugitive, but still, if we are new to it than we wouldnt suddenly want to read who it was that actually murdered his wife...

It was the one-armed man. No really, it was.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Apr 2008, 02:56

Markgway wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:I didnt actually know yet about Ford's character. If it was Star Wars and Darth Vader being Leiah's little sister, ok, everyone knows that already...
Aw shit, thanks. I was just about to watch Star Wars. Won't bother now.

You are joking, right? Yi's "spoiler" is all wrong BTW, for starters Vader is male and one generation older than Leia.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 01 Apr 2008, 06:34

bradavon wrote:
The 1982 Theatrical Cut is quite different from the Blade Runner we know and love today.

I don't know the film well but did see it on the big screen on it's original release and then the final cut on Blu-ray. i disliked both.besides if it's a totally different movie was everyone paid twice

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 01 Apr 2008, 09:05

I think Mark was joking

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Apr 2008, 12:59

King Kong (2005) - Extended Cut

7.5 out of 10

Lots of fun but really it's way too long. The first hour should've been 30 minutes less as the film doesn't really get started until we get to Skull Island. It's not a major concern as the first hour doesn't drag but neither is lots of it actually all that important either.

When we do though, oh boy lots of Kong/Dinosaur fun. The CGI for once works perfectly (a Lucas hack job this is not) and Andy Serkis's portrayel of King King is excellent. The surround sound is also fantastic, it's a pity there is no DTS though as the DD5.1 while excellent couldn't quite muster it.

Naomi Watts is as usual decent, the role doesn't ask much of her acting talents though. The main character is really the special effects and it's done so well in places. There are some really touching scenes, like when Kong calms down when he has Watts in his hand or when she walks to him in New York. It's not easy to make people empathise with CGI but Jackson here pulls it off in spades.

The added scenes add very little but are actually better than some of the scenes in the first hour. I'd probably say overall the Extended cut is better just, but as the new scenes add nothing and King Kong (2005) is really more than long enough already I'll pick the Theatrical Cut as my favourite.

HungFist wrote:Besides, it's not like the 5 disc version costs 80€. It's 18£ at amazon and play.

For today only, Blade Runner 5 Disc UE is much less than that:

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=4516

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 01 Apr 2008, 15:14

bradavon wrote:Andy Serkis's portrayel of King King is excellent.

Is that Kong's brother?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Apr 2008, 23:33

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Markgway wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:I didnt actually know yet about Ford's character. If it was Star Wars and Darth Vader being Leiah's little sister, ok, everyone knows that already...
Aw shit, thanks. I was just about to watch Star Wars. Won't bother now.
You are joking, right? Yi's "spoiler" is all wrong BTW, for starters Vader is male and one generation older than Leia.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 02 Apr 2008, 00:29

Good to know.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Apr 2008, 09:30

LOL @ Mark's picture

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 03 Apr 2008, 21:52

Outlaw 1/5

Ludicrous,preposterous british vigilante flick is dull in the extreme.Sean Bean,Danny Dyer,Bob Hoskins form a team of vigilantes ready to fight back against gangsters,corrupt cops etc.

AVP 2:Requiem unrated Blu-ray 2.5/5

Don't get me wrong this is not a good movie but i'll say if you like non-stop Predator-Alien battles only interrupted by offing humans then this will keep you entertained.ludicrous,hackneyed script- "what's going on", "we're not gonna make it" are among the standard cliches heard,the actors are anomynous d-listers but the film does move at a lightning pace and kept me amused at least.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Apr 2008, 22:23

How does AVP2 compare to AVP1 and Aliens 4?

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 03 Apr 2008, 22:27

AVP2 is terrible. Don't even waste your time with it...

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 03 Apr 2008, 23:57

saltysam wrote:Ludicrous,preposterous british vigilante flick is dull in the extreme.Sean Bean,Danny Dyer,Bob Hoskins form a team of vigilantes ready to fight back against gangsters,corrupt cops etc.

If only there were some clue as to this movie being utter shite.........

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 04 Apr 2008, 01:25

Danny Dyer voiced a supporting part in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and to this day that is still the best game in the series.