Sympathy for Lady Vengeance

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 05 Aug 2006, 13:43

Not a chance in hell

the films are not worth buying again.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Aug 2006, 15:18

Aren't you a fan?

I thought Old Boy was awesome but haven't seen the other two yet.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Aug 2006, 15:21

I already have the french editions of all 3 movies, with director's commentaries on SFMV and SFLV and native-PAL transfers. That'll do me.

Might be worth double-dipping if you have inferior editions, though.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 05 Aug 2006, 16:09

Tom, is the French Oldboy based on the UE master?

I still need to pick up the French disc of SFMV. SFLV I didn't like so I'll skip that one even for the sake of completing the 'trilogy.'

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Aug 2006, 16:50

Isn't the UE master worse than the original? I know it dropped DTS, how dumb. Personally I'd pick up the Tartan 2 Disc UK or wait for the box set and be done with it.

The Tartan is gorgeous in every way.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Aug 2006, 17:13

Lourdes wrote:Tom, is the French Oldboy based on the UE master?

Yes it is.
Sadly there is no korean DTS on it, but I only bought the french disc for its subtitles.

Brad wrote:Isn't the UE master worse than the original?

It's got different colour filters, but it's not worse (IMO).

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 05 Aug 2006, 22:23

The original Korean disc was very ugly with all sorts of print problems. The UE looked nicer in some places but a lot of the time the brightening up resulted in some qute ugly video. They are both disappointing discs for such a high profile film. Perhaps one day I'll try the R2J.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 06 Aug 2006, 01:59

but also the Fade-To-Black-And-White HD feature, exclusive to the boxset!

Mmmm, if Tartan have taken the F2B transfer from an HD master, then it's highly likely to be native-PAL.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Aug 2006, 14:42

Lourdes check out the UK Tartan it's gorgeous.

Tom2681 wrote:but I only bought the french disc for its subtitles.

You like English subs on HK films but French on Korean???

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Aug 2006, 14:49

bradavon wrote:Aren't you a fan?

I thought Old Boy was awesome but haven't seen the other two yet.

While I like them 3 films, as far as the way people go on about them I am lost.

They are 3 star film for me, good and all that, but so far from the best Korean films ever made like people say they are. Overarted is the best way to describe all 3, I think Mr Vengence is by far the best film of the 3 of them as it isnt ruined by overexpectation and glowing constant the best film ever made logo stamped on the cover. Which none of them are even close to.

The versions I have of all 3 at the moment are great, but sadly I would like to sell the last 2 as I paid a fortune for them and could make at least 100 quid just from Oldboy and Lady easy.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:18

The films are extremely good (well Oldboy and Lady Vengeance are, got Mr Vengeance on order) but where has anyone said they are "the best Korean films ever made" Romero? Explain

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:21

Many people think Oldboy is the best Korean film ever, no need to explain it at all, read some reviews, comments etc..

The fact a lot of people have only seen Oldboy and have nothing to compare it to gets on my tits. Korean cineman has a lot more ot offer than Oldboy thats for sure!

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:30

romerojpg wrote:The fact a lot of people have only seen Oldboy and have nothing to compare it to gets on my tits.

You have tits?

Anyway... I kinda agree with romero on this. "OldBoy" and "Mr. Vengeance" are both very good films. As for SfLV, it didn't do a lot for me. Maybe I way expecting too much, don't know.

As for the best Korean films... hmmm... as always it's really tough to judge on that, but "OldBoy" definitely belongs to my favourite Korean films. It's up there with "Memories of Murder" and "Friend".

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:37

Its just an expression LD

I haven't seen Memories of Murder or Friend.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:37

I guess the fame Oldboy gained may bring people into Korean cinema, which is always a good thing as people need to start somewhere I guess

but I find a lot of people only seem to stick with the Media films of the moment, the ones that get all the press. They dont explore any deeper at all, thats how it seems to me anyway

esspecially the UK media.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:54

For me Old Boy isn't overrated at all.

It's easily one of the best films I've seen this year. I'd give it 9 out of 10. It's perfect in every way: the look, sound (what awesome music), orginality, the twist my god that was good.

I've not seen half the Korean films Romero has so many it isn't very good in comparison but for now it's fantastic. Besides a fair few Korean films are overrated anyway (JSA, Memories of Murder), some are great though (Musa, Shiri, Il Mare, My Sassy Girl).

grim_tales wrote:Its just an expression LD

He knows.

grim_tales wrote:I haven't seen Memories of Murder or Friend.

Memories of Murder was average for me. I've got Friend but haven't seen it yet. The Scandinavian R2 from dvdoo.com is cheap as chips and has oodle of English friendly extras on a second disc.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:00

bradavon wrote: I've got Friend but haven't seen it yet. The Scandinavian R2 from dvdoo.com is cheap as chips and has oodle of English friendly extras on a second disc.

They're selling it for 3€ here. Maybe I should pic it up. How's the transfer?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:21

Decent enough nothing outstanding but decent enough. I've got nothing to compare it to mind.

I went for it for the English friendly subs (BOTH discs are DVD-9's). It looked like the best version by far. For 3€ I'd definitely pick it up.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:23

Thanks.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:33

Friend for me is very average in every way, tried to sell it as soon as I finished watching it and I rarley sell films. I have the Korean expensive Tin set, if you like the film its probibly worth getting, but I dont so I want rid of it sadly no one wants it

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 06 Aug 2006, 20:52

bradavon wrote:Lourdes check out the UK Tartan it's gorgeous.

I have it, UE master, slightly cropped and slightly less sharp than the Korean disc.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 06 Aug 2006, 21:00

The list of Korean films I like is very short but Oldboy is definitely on there. It has been a bandwagon so yes it is ridiculously overrated but it's still very, very cool. I think it loses the plot once the plot itself comes into play but the first half is just fantastic. SFMV I enjoyed overall, few weak points but it picked up. SFLV... well, not a fan at all.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 26 Sep 2006, 10:26

The review is up for Tartan US version, see this review from DVD TOWN

Looks pretty good, just wonder if Tartan UK new release boxset will replace my Korean version of this movie

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Sep 2006, 10:59

slasher13 wrote:Looks pretty good, just wonder if Tartan UK new release boxset will replace my Korean version of this movie

Ditto. It's all down to the transfers of SFMV/SFLV being native-PAL or not.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Sep 2006, 12:20

DVDanswers review of the Tartan R1 with screen cap comparison, looks like they've used the same master used for the HK disc rather than the master used for the R3K.

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