Mad Max - new r4 SE: Nov. '07
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Mad Max - new r4 SE: Nov. '07
The only 'feature' listed is a booklet. What did the old SE have?
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/796228
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/796228
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Cheers Grim. I've yet to own this.
There is no old R4 SE. It has Full-rate DTS but only trailers as extras. The DTS is supposed to be a corker.
The R1 SE is ancient and while it has DD5.1 it's supposed to be pants against the DTS. I would guess more so for the different remastering than actually DTS. That has a commentary and lots of other extras. It's old though.
I cannot believe they've mentioned the booklet on the cover
p.s - Rewind comparison, the R1 SE extras look pretty limited:
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1368
I cannot believe all the Warner versions have the proper Australian English dialogue and a Yank dub , as if the Australian soundtrack is so hard to understand.
There is no old R4 SE. It has Full-rate DTS but only trailers as extras. The DTS is supposed to be a corker.
The R1 SE is ancient and while it has DD5.1 it's supposed to be pants against the DTS. I would guess more so for the different remastering than actually DTS. That has a commentary and lots of other extras. It's old though.
I cannot believe they've mentioned the booklet on the cover
p.s - Rewind comparison, the R1 SE extras look pretty limited:
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1368
I cannot believe all the Warner versions have the proper Australian English dialogue and a Yank dub , as if the Australian soundtrack is so hard to understand.
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Anyway, there ain't likely to be any HD releases of the first film from Warner. Warner UK/Europe is pretty slack, never producing their own projects, they just portover whatever the US offices produce.
If you knew, then why did you make the previous inaccurate statement?bradavon wrote:I know
bradavon wrote:They don't elsewhere though. Warner do.
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It's not inaccurate Warner do own international rights to Max Max, it was you who decided to presume I meant worldwide. Nothing is stopping Warner from releasing Mad Max 2 on HD as they have already and Mad Max on HD also in just the territories they have the rights to.
Not always. They released their own "Don't Look Now" DVD.Warner UK/Europe is pretty slack, never producing their own projects, they just portover whatever the US offices produce.
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You missed my point. The Euro/UK divisions have proved themselves to be nothing but lazy in the past, have they undertaken to remaster anything or produce a Special Edition or their own volition? AFAIK no. They've just published other people's work.bradavon wrote:Nothing is stopping Warner from releasing Mad Max 2 on HD as they have already and Mad Max on HD also in just the territories they have the rights to.
It's unlikely that they'd issues Mad Max onto HD formats; and if they did it'd probably utilise the same shithouse master that was used for the R2 DVD from many moon ago.
Which used the Studio Canal master. That's still being lazy.Not always. They released their own "Don't Look Now" DVD.
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Still a HD release taken from the same source as the Warner R2 would look like arse if it isn't remastered, even the original DVD was taken from a HD master. HD would just show up all the faults of the original master, we'll likely have an arse looking transfer like the barebones Full Metal Jacket HD releases, Spartacus, Field of Dreams, etc.
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As it's unlikely an HD Disc is coming any time soon I think I'll just pick up the R4.
All reviews say the 5.1 remix is awesome, the DTS is full-rate too. I rarely notice new foley being added and it's not like I'll have the Mono to compare against. I'm more bothered by over the top 5.1 remixes, such as Taxi Driver a little and definitely Withnail and I.
I've not seen the film for eons anyway so doubt I'll be able to spot anything out of place. I will wait to see what happens with this new R4 SE though, just in case it trumps the old R4.
The price on all e-tailors for the New R4 SE is considerably less than the old R4. For that alone it's worth waiting.
Reading reviews the R1 SE's DD5.1 is much more restrained, which maybe a good thing but having not heard the R4's offering I'll give it a go. The extras look pants.
I can then pick up Mad Max 2 on HD later on. I don't think I've even seen it. I've only seen bits of Max Mad 3, which I can barely remember. I'd wait for a decent re-release of that one, it has nothing redeeming about it.
I remember Mad Max being a classic though.
All reviews say the 5.1 remix is awesome, the DTS is full-rate too. I rarely notice new foley being added and it's not like I'll have the Mono to compare against. I'm more bothered by over the top 5.1 remixes, such as Taxi Driver a little and definitely Withnail and I.
I've not seen the film for eons anyway so doubt I'll be able to spot anything out of place. I will wait to see what happens with this new R4 SE though, just in case it trumps the old R4.
The price on all e-tailors for the New R4 SE is considerably less than the old R4. For that alone it's worth waiting.
Reading reviews the R1 SE's DD5.1 is much more restrained, which maybe a good thing but having not heard the R4's offering I'll give it a go. The extras look pants.
I can then pick up Mad Max 2 on HD later on. I don't think I've even seen it. I've only seen bits of Max Mad 3, which I can barely remember. I'd wait for a decent re-release of that one, it has nothing redeeming about it.
I remember Mad Max being a classic though.
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The Road Warrior is it's American title right? With Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior being it's proper title. You'd think they'd now rename it back to it's proper title.
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Regarding remastering the first, it's not a case where you can transfert direct in HD with minor tweaking of the colors, lights and contrast, you would have to work hard to make it look good.
That's where the US DVD fails : it may be clean, but it use too much light and soft contrast, all the defiencies of the original shoots comes through. That's the reason I prefer the R2 version, or the japanese 4/3 edition.
Road Warrior is a masterpiece, it's only fault is that all those good guys in white are so ridiculous, you just root for them getting killed by the bad guys. I'm not speaking of the Gyrocaptain humor, which have dated now badly, but the rest is astonishing.
That's where the US DVD fails : it may be clean, but it use too much light and soft contrast, all the defiencies of the original shoots comes through. That's the reason I prefer the R2 version, or the japanese 4/3 edition.
Road Warrior is a masterpiece, it's only fault is that all those good guys in white are so ridiculous, you just root for them getting killed by the bad guys. I'm not speaking of the Gyrocaptain humor, which have dated now badly, but the rest is astonishing.
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Actually, the original title is simply MAD MAX 2bradavon wrote:The Road Warrior is it's American title right? With Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior being it's proper title. You'd think they'd now rename it back to it's proper title.
The Road Warrior was purely an American invention, because Mad Max bombed there.