What general film/series have you just seen.. marks out of 5

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 03 Apr 2009, 23:54

gasteropod wrote:Did you watch it in black and white or colour? I haven't seen the film at all but I seem to recall reading that the DC is in B&W?

I saw it in colour which is how it was filmed.

For the special edition discs they desaturated to black and white which is how the director would've liked to have filmed it but wasn't allowed.

I wouldn't describe it as a dir's cut as it's the same version of the film.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 03 Apr 2009, 23:55

Cypher (USA, 2002) - 3,5/5

(I was gonna post this rating together with other non-asian movies, but it could take years before I watch the next non-asian film )

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 04 Apr 2009, 00:07

Markgway wrote:I saw it in colour which is how it was filmed.

For the special edition discs they desaturated to black and white which is how the director would've liked to have filmed it but wasn't allowed.

I wouldn't describe it as a dir's cut as it's the same version of the film.

Similar to the situation with Lady Vengeance and how the director's version fades to black and white.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 04 Apr 2009, 00:14

Which is the 'right' version to watch Lady Vengeance, and which release has that version!? I still haven't seen that movie. The soundtrack is great though.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 04 Apr 2009, 00:17

Well obviously the director's version is the 'right' version (fade to B&W), I believe it was released in the UK in a box set of the 'Vengeance' films.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Apr 2009, 00:45

Correct Gas, regarding the F2B, otherwise it's only one the Korean DVD. At least with English subs. All other English subtitled DVDs have been the colour version, including the UK non-box set version.

Care to say any more Hung? I hear Cypher is really good. Cube is brilliant. I'll get round to buying that one day.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 04 Apr 2009, 00:52

Yeah I like Cube and have been wanting to see the director's other works too. His bit on Paris, Je T'aime is great (although bizarrely unrelated to anything French). I'll buy Cube when it gets released on BD.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 04 Apr 2009, 09:57

bradavon wrote:
Care to say any more Hung? I hear Cypher is really good.

It's a very good sci-fi thriller than leans heavily on good writing and mystery storyline (the writer of the film is a big Hitchcock fan). There's hardly any action in the film. Jeremy Northam also gives a pretty good performance in the lead role and Lucy Liu isn't completely out of place either. The only negative things are really editing in a few individual scenes (there's some "fashionably edited" memory collages") and soundtract that is partly good, partly not so good.

But yeah, 3.5 on my scale, meaning a strong 4 on anyone elses

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 04 Apr 2009, 11:37

Markgway wrote:THE MIST 4/5

A horror movie with intelligence and balls.

Must be the most downbeat ending in recent movie history

Can't remember what score i gave it here,it was a decent film that i originally kept but have now sold on.well worth a watch.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 04 Apr 2009, 12:13

gasteropod wrote:Well obviously the director's version is the 'right' version (fade to B&W), I believe it was released in the UK in a box set of the 'Vengeance' films.

Thanks :0

Is that version also the version worth seeing, or do most people just think of the fade-to-B&W as a unneccesary gimmick which doesnt improve the movie!?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 04 Apr 2009, 14:17

Yi-Long wrote:
gasteropod wrote:Well obviously the director's version is the 'right' version (fade to B&W), I believe it was released in the UK in a box set of the 'Vengeance' films.
Thanks :0

Is that version also the version worth seeing, or do most people just think of the fade-to-B&W as a unneccesary gimmick which doesnt improve the movie!?

The fade-to-B&W version is clearly better than the color version. That's how the film was originally designed to be. They released the the color version in theatres because they couldn't finish the B&W version in time.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 04 Apr 2009, 15:29

Markgway wrote:
romerojpg wrote:
Markgway wrote: intelligence
You watched a different film from what they made then. Its a dumb assed monster film.
...Says the forum's biggest fan of STARSHIP TROOPERS

Now THAT is a dumb monster movie.

THE MIST was an intelligent study in human behaviour under extreme circumstances. Fear, paranoia, religion, survivalism all play a part. The monsters are merely the catalyist and I preumse therefore that the inclusion of CGI monsters has confused Romero into assuming that this was "another dumb monster movie". But read between the lines.

I think most intelligent people would "get it".

Nope Starship Troopers IS a dumb assed monster film

thats no bad thing.

Mist is dumb as a bad of spanners, but good

loved it like many others, but no way in my life will I waste time watcing that black and white version.

I was just gutted I never saw it in the cinema

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 04 Apr 2009, 19:08

The social critique in The Mist is laid on with a trowel, even Starship Troopers is a more subtle look at human nature. ST is a hell of a lot more subversive and consistent than The Mist as well.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 05 Apr 2009, 01:05

Shingster wrote:The social critique in The Mist is laid on with a trowel, even Starship Troopers is a more subtle look at human nature. ST is a hell of a lot more subversive and consistent than The Mist as well.

Er, yes.

EDIT: Oh, you mean the "Nazi" thing?

Yes, that was subtle... lol

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:26

The Fly (1986): 4.25/5

Pretty disturbing and weird in places but very good. I have to see The Fly II now.

Sleeping Beauty (1958): 4/5

The transfer on the 50th Anniversary DVD is very good.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:46

Fly 2 is a dumb nuts and bolts monster movie, an okay one at best. It's not in the same ball park as Fly 1.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:49

Thanks. Fly 1 felt more than just a monster movie IMO.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 07 Apr 2009, 21:55

Batman (1943 Serial) 3/5

This 15 chapter serial was the very first screen outing for the Batman character. i remember seeing this at the kids saturday cinema club back in the 70's so it was a nostalgic watch for me

Very cheap looking with a pretty cornball plot that could barely sustain a 90 minute film let alone a serial of over 4 hours

Each chapter ends with Batman & Robin facing certain death only to somehow escape their fate at the start of the next chapter! J Carrol Naish play Dakar,a japanese criminal whose plans for world domination are conducted entirely in one small headquarters throughout the 15 chapters.incredibly racist with much jap bashing,this was cut for reissues but thankfully the 2 disc dvd is the full version.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 11 Apr 2009, 19:52

Tango & Cash (USA, 1989) - 3/5
Stallone, Russell, and a very amusing screenplay. Not many other merits, though.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Apr 2009, 14:58

T&C is a lot of fun. They don't make 'em like that anymore IMO.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Apr 2009, 15:52

Markgway wrote:T&C is a lot of fun. They don't make 'em like that anymore IMO.

We will find out when Expendables is out

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Apr 2009, 16:46

I cannot see it being like T&C. The era has gone. Back in the 80s they deliberately went for the R rating (which meant swearing, violence and possibly some sexism) but today they go for the PG-13 rating.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Apr 2009, 16:49

bradavon wrote:but today they go for the PG-13 rating.

Well you obviously dont watch many Stright to DVD films then, as they are still exactly the same as they ever were, violent, nasty and packed full of sex and swearing.

and starring the same loosers as 20 years ago

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Apr 2009, 17:00

I wan't counting those. Theatrical films go for PG-13, to get more bums on seats. This isn't a requirement with DTV films.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Apr 2009, 17:08

Yup you got that right

saw Fast and Furious last night, was a 15 until I got in the cinema and up came the card at the beginning saying 12A!!!!

Then the film started, and some evil cuts had been made!

if you can notice, they failed big time.