Sabotage (Schwarzenegger, Ayer) (2014)

[HungFist]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer (End of Watch, which happens to be one of the best cop movies in the recent years) was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film. And the trailer is out already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC0QcmGWlvU

Frankly it seems a bit cliched, scripted by Skip Woods who has never done anything worthwhile, and I'm not sure Schwarzenegger's acting skills are up to it but I do have trust in Ayer.

[Markgway]

First I've heard of it.

Could be good... like yourself I rated End of Watch, although this is clearly a different proposition altogether.

I just checked out Skip Woods' writing credits... KEEP THIS MAN AWAY FROM A KEYBOARD!!

[grim_tales]

Looked quite good to me.
Arnie looks so OLD

[Markgway]

The man is 67! What's he supposed to look like?

[grim_tales]

Fair enough

[Shingster]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film.

Yeah I heard that Arnie personally appointed David, the studio execs asked Arnie which filmmaker would most satisfy his fanbase & Arnie told them: "give these people Ayer!!!".

[HungFist]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film.

Yeah I heard that Arnie personally appointed David, the studio execs asked Arnie which filmmaker would most satisfy his fanbase & Arnie told them: "give these people Ayer!!!".

That sounds like a good call.

To be honest, I can't think of many good directors for Arnold. Some people keep suggesting names like John McTiernan (for the next Die Hard) but who knows if these 80's masters have their skills anymore? Still, I'd love to see Verhoeven do the next Conan.

Too bad Cameron is busy making 15 Avatar sequels

[grim_tales]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film.

Yeah I heard that Arnie personally appointed David, the studio execs asked Arnie which filmmaker would most satisfy his fanbase & Arnie told them: "give these people Ayer!!!".

Good one

[HungFist]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film.

Yeah I heard that Arnie personally appointed David, the studio execs asked Arnie which filmmaker would most satisfy his fanbase & Arnie told them: "give these people Ayer!!!".

Good one

oh, that was a joke

[Markgway]

Have I been living under a rock, or did this come out of nowhere? I didn't know David Ayer was directing Schwarzenegger in his next film.

Yeah I heard that Arnie personally appointed David, the studio execs asked Arnie which filmmaker would most satisfy his fanbase & Arnie told them: "give these people Ayer!!!".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANa9Oku-JM

[Markgway]

"Rated R For strong bloody violence, pervasive language, some sexuality/nudity and drug use."

[Masterofoneinchpunch]

I thought End of Watch was a harrowing and effective film. Though I don't know when/if I will rewatch it.

Don't forget about the heart surgeries for Arnold as well. I know that hurt his workouts. Has anyone read his autobiography? He talks about this in it.

I'll see this in the theater.

[Markgway]

I have his autobiography, but haven't gotten round to reading it yet.

[Masterofoneinchpunch]

I have his autobiography, but haven't gotten round to reading it yet.

It's fun and interesting from a man who really did not let anything stop him.

I like his 10 rules for life:

1) Never let pride get in your way.
2) Don't overthink.
3) Forget Plan B
4) You can use humor to settle a score.
5) The day has twenty-four hours.
6) Reps, reps, reps
7) Don't blame your parents.
8) Change takes big balls.
9) Take care of your body and your mind.
10) Stay Hungry.

Of course he gives explanation for all of these.

[Markgway]

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/sabotage-film

[Beat TG]

This certainly looks like Arnie's real comeback in action movies.

[Markgway]

Fingers crossed, eh.

[HungFist]

(not related to the movie but)

Possibly the coolest video on internet:
http://youtu.be/w4lnVx2BAYk

[Markgway]

"I don't cry!"

[grim_tales]

[Markgway]

Looks like it's another flop for Arnold.

http://www.thewrap.com/arnold-schwarzen ... ffice-bomb

[HungFist]

Looks like it's another flop for Arnold.

http://www.thewrap.com/arnold-schwarzen ... ffice-bomb

While it's not a promising start, let's not jump the American boat right yet. Many of these recent Arnold and Sly films have made up to 82% of their box office outside USA (e.g. Escape Plan: 25 million in USA, 112 million abroad).

The Last Stand wasn't a great hit anywhere, though. Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure it was a profitable production in the end. People always forget there's big money in the DVD, TV and VoD markets. The film actually made its production budget back in theaters alone (45 million --> 48 million).

[Markgway]

Analysts always go by the US box office when deciding what's hot and what's not.

Most movies will eventually make their money back internationally or on home video - even the biggest of turkeys - but it's the opening weekend that gets studios excited.

As far as that goes, Sabotage - like The Last Stand and Escape Plan - is a flop. All three of them opening at under $10m.

Arnold's last #1 hit was Terminator 3, which opened with $44m.
If the upcoming T5 doesn't do similar business I think his career as a leading man may be (sadly) washed up.

[grim_tales]

Arnie will hardly be the leading man in T5 though, no? Maybe he could be the 'human' the T800 would be based on or something like that