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Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 19:01
by bradavon
It looks like it's coming in May:

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... ator2.html

I'd be amazed if this was simply a re-release of the US BD. That's single layer, MPEG2, PCM 5.1 and no extras. Can you see anyone releasing a disc like that in 2012?

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 11:24
by IronMonkey
I read a post by Van Ling the other day saying the remastered version is still on hold until they can get Cameron and Scwarzenegger involved. This will just be a reissue.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 14:03
by Markgway
They can shove that up their arse.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 16:37
by bradavon
IronMonkey wrote:I read a post by Van Ling the other day saying the remastered version is still on hold until they can get Cameron and Scwarzenegger involved. This will just be a reissue.
A barebones or lacklustre release is more likely. The USA BD is so old and uses techniques they all dropped years ago. I still say a reissue is very unlikely.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 17:24
by IronMonkey
Either way, it isn't going to be the Lowry restoration, so this disc is a pointless release.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 18:11
by bradavon
But when is that coming? It could be years.

As long as the AV is acceptable I'll get it. I don't care about extras. A proper MPEG4 HD picture with Lossless 5.1 and I'm in.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 22:28
by IronMonkey
bradavon wrote:A proper MPEG4 HD picture with Lossless mono and I'm in.
Fixed.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 08:11
by Markgway
IronMonkey wrote:
bradavon wrote:A proper MPEG4 HD picture with Lossless mono and I'm in.
Fixed.
:thumbs:

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 10:45
by bradavon
Most 5.1 remixes are awful but I love the Terminator remix. It adds so much, mono couldn't handle. I doubt this will get mono.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 11:03
by Markgway
I've heard the 5.1 remix and it's new foley madness.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 11:14
by IronMonkey
Van Ling is well aware that pretty much everyone who loves the film hated the 5.1 remix with its awful foley effects. He is working on the new Blu-ray and he is pushing hard for the original mono track. Only complete fools like the 5.1 track.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 18:55
by bradavon
IronMonkey wrote:Van Ling is well aware that pretty much everyone who loves the film hated the 5.1 remix with its awful foley effects. He is working on the new Blu-ray and he is pushing hard for the original mono track.
On the US BD I expect it'll have both (maybe a new 7.1 mix how knows) but the UK BD will just get the remix.
Markgway wrote:I've heard the 5.1 remix and it's new foley madness.
In this case, :thumbs:. Guys it's Terminator, explosions and shit are the name of the game. This isn't some talky.
IronMonkey wrote:Van Ling is well aware that pretty much everyone who loves the film hated the 5.1 remix with its awful foley effects
I doubt that. The average buyer doesn't even know what foley is. "Many fans hated it", is more accurate.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 28 Dec 2011, 18:28
by grim_tales
I'll wait and see - I hope the remaster is released sometime down the line!
What's holding up Arnie and Cameron being involved? Its great Van is pushing for the remaster though and trying to get the original Mono.
It should at least be offered as an option.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 28 Dec 2011, 18:34
by bradavon
Cameron's busy on Titanic 3D and Imagine Arnie on getting back into movies.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:52
by grim_tales
I've seen this is coming in November:

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/2763 ... oduct.html

Not sure if its just a reissue though :?

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 04:35
by bradavon
As discussed previously I'd be amazed if it's a re-issue. Whether it'll be the Special Edition everyone wants is another matter.

I'll just repeat what I said earlier "As long as the AV is acceptable I'll get it. I don't care about extras. A proper MPEG4 HD picture with Lossless 5.1 and I'm in.". There's no need for anyone repeat they disagree with me though.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 06:40
by Markgway
Why bother repeating yourself then?

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 13:20
by bradavon
I'm being a leftie and pretentious :D.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 19:55
by Markgway
No, you're being annoying as usual.

You can't repeat yourself and then say 'oh, but no one else should'.

Everytime you say all you want is 5.1, I'll reply with all I want is original mono.

Deal with it.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 19:56
by IronMonkey
All I want is original mono. We are right, bradavon is wrong. Plain and simple.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 20:31
by luckystars
I couldn't give a shit about mono.....as long as there is no new foley, I'm happy. :thumbs:

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 20:50
by IronMonkey
luckystars wrote:...as long as there is no new foley...
And that's exactly why you should care about the mono track!

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 21:02
by bradavon
Markgway wrote:Every time you say all you want is 5.1, I'll reply with all I want is original mono.

Deal with it.
That's me told :D. Original Mono and 5.1 remix = Is that a fair compromise? I'd be as pissed if the 5.1 remix was dropped for the Mono. Thankfully it would never happen. I can't stand many 5.1 remixes (most HK studios, most anchor bay) but the Terminator one great. I don't care this time the foley is added because it enhances the movie.

If it were stereo it would be one thing but an action film like Terminator in Mono, WTF! Why is't it stereo anyway? The film's not that old.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 23:06
by Markgway
luckystars wrote:I couldn't give a shit about mono.....as long as there is no new foley, I'm happy. :thumbs:
The Terminator remix contains new foley so your point here is moot.
bradavon wrote:If it were stereo it would be one thing but an action film like Terminator in Mono, WTF! Why is't it stereo anyway? The film's not that old.
It was low budget. Many modest productions were released in mono until the end of the 80s. Stereo was still a bit of a studio luxury.

Re: Terminator Blu-ray

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 23:25
by gasteropod
The problem is that the original mono on many HK discs is horrible quality and can go out of sync etc. so their remastered 5.1 tracks are actually preferable.