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Interesting that the US Blu Ray of Thunderball has the original mono, which none of the DVDs have ever had
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An extra £50 for the soldering I could live with... but I saw one place that added roughly £300 to the standard coded price. These people are rip-off merchants. By all accounts the work takes a few minutes. The fact that most people aren't comfortable with electricals gives them a licence to charge what the fuck they like. You may bite the bullet and pay it Brad but don't pretend it's "worth it". It's an outrage. The BDA is nothing. A bunch of studio big mouths. Without manufacturers BD is dead. If Samsung or any other major manufacturer said we're not gonna code the players there's pretty much fuck all the BDA could do about it. Fox is the only studio which REALLY gives a shit and it was them who insisted coding be implemented in the first place. Some studios didn't want it and the others were wavering.

THUNDERBALL US-BACK COVER:

http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.a ... #topoftabs

Confirms region coding and presence of original mono.

I'd be my left nut that we get shafted in the UK (as usual).
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bradavon wrote:I thought the UE did? -

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=174
Yes. The R1 UE has orignal mono and looks like that's what I'll be using for a good while to come.
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I meant it's worth it as it's "multi-region", to me that's gold dust. I did spend £500 for my HD Player, something you wouldn't do though, so it's different. I agree though, like owning a car they do rip us off something rotten.

I once had to pay Peugeot £70 to configure a spare key I gave them to work with my car. It took them less than 10 minutes to plug this computer into my car, get a code and configure the spare key. I had no choice really as I needed a spare key. Bastards.
If Samsung or any other major manufacturer said we're not gonna code the players there's pretty much fuck all the BDA could do about it.
From a hardware perspective there must be something in it, otherwise we'd be seeing remote hacks. Like the one on my LG BH200. I've not had to use it much as all my discs are region free with the exception of three that are Region A.

The UK House of Flying Daggers is Region B though (Pathe through Fox), so it will come in handy.
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bradavon wrote:I thought the UE did? -

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=174
Yes. The R1 UE has orignal mono and looks like that's what I'll be using for a good while to come.
Cheers! Does that DVD have the water turn red when Quist is fed to the sharks - the inital UK Ultimate Edition (my foot!) had it remain blue cause of thier tinkering

Also, on the mono track, does the end credits have the James Bond theme or the Thunderball Instrumental?
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bradavon wrote:I meant it's worth it as it's "multi-region", to me that's gold dust. I did spend £500 for my HD Player
Ouch! I think your judgement can be considered a touch off. :wink:
From a hardware perspective there must be something in it, otherwise we'd be seeing remote hacks.
I suspect the BDA pay manufacturers to impliment certain specs. There's nothing at all in it for them to do so otherwise. Samsung don't make any money by coding their machines. Just the opposite.
Like the one on my LG BH200. I've not had to use it much as all my discs are region free with the exception of three that are Region A.
Is that an HD and BD player? I thought it was HD-only? If it plays both (inc. region-coded BDs that's not so bad...). Is that the only coderee machine? Or have LG got others in the works?
The UK House of Flying Daggers is Region B though (Pathe through Fox), so it will come in handy.
I think the more titles come out the more niggles we'll be subjected to. This will get worse before (--if) it gets better.
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Ivan Drago wrote:Cheers! Does that DVD have the water turn red when Quist is fed to the sharks - the inital UK Ultimate Edition (my foot!) had it remain blue cause of thier tinkering
Yes. The R1 fixed that glitch. They also fixed the colours on the harbour scene from You Only Live Twice. Also the original subtitles and title cards for most or all of the films were fixed. (I didn't see every single one myself).
Also, on the mono track, does the end credits have the James Bond theme or the Thunderball Instrumental?
Don't remember.
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"Initial" UK UE of LTK? I'm sure my copy has the scene where the water turns red? :?
EDIT - you're talking about Thunderball. Doh! :D
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Markgway wrote:Is that an HD and BD player? I thought it was HD-only? If it plays both (inc. region-coded BDs that's not so bad...). Is that the only coderee machine? Or have LG got others in the works?
The LG BH100 (rubbish) and LG BH200 (good) are a HD-DVD and BD Combo Players. The LG BH200 is Profile 1.1 and "maybe" made Profile 2.0.

I'm amazed you managed to miss all my HD Combo Player talk :D. I was only ever interested in a Combo Player.

Their BD300 is their first BD Player, which also has Netflix (video rental streaming, yawn) connectivity, it's only available in the American market as Netflix only operate in America.

The BH100 is BD Region Free out of the box and can be easily made SD DVD Region Free. The BH200 is region locked for both but can be altered for both (SD DVD Region Free and BD Region Switchable).

I imagine the same hacks for the BH100/BH200 also work with the BD300. I was told by an LG Engineer the hack is the same one they use to code them before shipping, technically it's not a hack at all. The BD Hack also works with the BH100 but there's no need to use it. It's only a matter of time until LG release it over here either with a partnership with the likes of LoveFilm or dropping that feature entirely. The BD300 is also Profile 2.0.

Both the BH100 and BH200 can also be hacked to enable PAL on USA models. The LG BH200 isn't perfect, some have problems with audio/video drop-outs and have problems playing some discs. I've yet to have any problems at all. It plays every disc I've ever put in it and I've never had either an audio or video drop-out.

My BH200 struggles with the Web content on the German T2 HD-DVD but I believe most Players struggle with that. I don't care anyway as I bought it for the content on the disc and for all we know they could've turned off the web feed by now anyway. I cannot imagine the makers will leave it live forever.

Personally if I was going to buy a BD Player I'd pick up a Panasonic or Sony but their Profile 2.0 Players are pricey. Samsung BD Players had loads of problems originally but could be fine now. I'm not sure.
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bradavon wrote:I'm amazed you managed to miss all my HD Combo Player talk :D. I was only ever interested in a Combo Player.
I didn't... I just have a bad memory sometimes.
I imagine the same hacks for the BH100/BH200 also work with the BD300. It's only a matter of time until LG release it over here either with a partnership with the likes of LoveFilm or dropping that feature entirely. The BD300 is also Profile 2.0.
Interesting. If you learn any more please let us know.
My BH200 struggles with the Web content on the German T2 HD-DVD but I believe most Players struggle with that.
Web content doesn't interest me.
Personally if I was going to buy a BD Player I'd pick up a Panasonic or Sony but their Profile 2.0 Players are pricey.
You can get them for under £300 but coded obviously. I read a comment from a Samsung executive who reckons Blu-Ray has about five years left. Let's just wait for Green-Ray then shall we?
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Markgway wrote:Interesting. If you learn any more please let us know.
Sure, no worries. I'll ask over at AVS Forum. I'm not sure when or if the BD300 is out yet. It doesn't interest me so I've not paid much attention to it.
Markgway wrote:Web content doesn't interest me.
Me either. I've yet to read of any that actually looks any good.
Markgway wrote:I read a comment from a Samsung executive who reckons Blu-Ray has about five years left. Let's just wait for Green-Ray then shall we?
Sony were pretty pissed off by that comment. I'm sure it will last longer than 5 years. Many people want a physical disc to own and even then Broadband speeds will need to get much better it's ever possible.

They cannot even give us SD over Broadband (as a mass market product anyway), let alone HD.
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Copy protection would probably prevent downloaders from burning discs anyways...
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Were you talking about Thunderball when you mentioned "Quint being fed to the sharks"? I thought that was LTK for a sec. I have LTK R2 UE and hope its OK.
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grim_tales wrote:Were you talking about Thunderball when you mentioned "Quint being fed to the sharks"? I thought that was LTK for a sec. I have LTK R2 UE and hope its OK.
Quist, not Quint
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Oops.. my bad.
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Markgway wrote:Copy protection would probably prevent downloaders from burning discs anyways...
Yep, for sure. DRM is evil. The ways to remove DRM from bought music is time wasting and reduces the quality too.
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Link details exact cuts made to the UK and US versions of CASINO ROYALE. Useful for anyone planning on upgrading to BD.

http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/latest.ht ... nsors_3335
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I'm sure this is in the UK cut:
In the torture scene, right after LeChiffre says, “You’ve taken good care of your body”, the UK version removes the following shot of him draping the large, knotted end of the rope over Bond’s shoulder and saying to him sadistically, “Such a waste”
I definitely remember that line.

I didn't realise so much was cut from the USA cut. I'm happy with my existing BD. The AV is identical. I'm in no rush to upgrade for extras.

p.s - Thanks btw.
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bradavon wrote:I'm sure this is in the UK cut:
In the torture scene, right after LeChiffre says, “You’ve taken good care of your body”, the UK version removes the following shot of him draping the large, knotted end of the rope over Bond’s shoulder and saying to him sadistically, “Such a waste”
I definitely remember that line.
Nope, it's not.
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Maybe I remember it from my R3 DVD. I'll have to check my UK BD.
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If your UK BD has it then yours is very special, as I used to own the free version I got with my PS3, and I now own the standard version and it's in neither ;)
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Fair enough. They're the same except a missing barcode. Why did you change it? I own the PS3 version, there were shed loads being sold on eBay.
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It didn't look like I was getting one because Sony told me I'd signed up after the offer had ended, so I bought the standard one, and then the free one came like almost immediately afterwards :roll:
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