Mozilla Firefox 3.0: RELEASED!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Jun 2008, 16:17

romerojpg wrote:Well you lot can test it out and wait for you to report all the bugs, then I can jump in and have no bugs.

Believe me when I say this, there is no just thing as bug free software. What happens is the larger bugs get fixed. Which is what Vista SP1 did, and you ignored that too

. I know you think I know nothing about everything but I do know more about IT than you.

romerojpg wrote:I use Photobucket for one, if that dont work well with it, thats a strike from me stright away.

According to this it was because Photobucket was hacked and it was a coincidence users were also installing FF3 at the same time. It says it also happened with IE:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 215AAhdpbj

I've no idea if that's true but it's only thing I can find about FF3 and Photobucket. I'm not sure what Salty meant but if it was true it would be all over the web. There are other references on Google to Photobucket being down too.

What do you use Photobucket for btw? I tend to e-mail people photos, upload them to my website or use Image Shack for photos I only need briefly.

romerojpg wrote:I have all my settings done for Firefox, going to FF3 may mess them up or worse.

You can upgrade over the top. FF has alway imported existing profile settings.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 21 Jun 2008, 16:24

Photobuckets for everything I post that I dont want to link to somewhere else.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Jun 2008, 16:27

1. If you're wondering what's new, this should help:

http://lifehacker.com/392160/top-10-firefox-3-features

2. Turn Firefox 3's Location Bar Yellow on https:// URLs:

http://lifehacker.com/396582/turn-firef ... https-urls

3. Create Your Own Smart Bookmarks in Firefox 3:

http://cybernetnews.com/2008/05/07/cybe ... -firefox-3

I've yet to work out the use of Smart Bookmarks. It's a nice idea but:

* Recent Bookmarks: I always remember where I put my bookmarks. I keep my bookmarks categorised
* Most Visited Bookmarks: That's what the Bookmark Toolbar is for.

gasteropod wrote:The bookmarks section is indeed cluttered, and when you select a website off it, the bookmarks bit doesn't close itself, you have to do it.

I've just noticed you can delete "Recent Bookmarks" and "Recent Tags", just right click on them and choose Delete from the Bookmark Organiser. You cannot delete any others unfortunately

. The "Bookmarks Toolbar" one in particular is completely useless, it's on the bloody toolbar anyway.

If you wish to restore them, you can do so by following these instructions:

http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/27/rest ... bookmarks/

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 21 Jun 2008, 16:40

Okay, I've just installed the thing.
It is fast. The improved add-on manager is cool and the Smart Location Bar is awesome.

But it's not all good.
The FF2 "trick" that allowed you to remove the personal bar (or whatever it's called in english) from the bookmarks menu doesn't work anymore, and memory usage is ridiculous.
93 megabytes for 2 web pages? gimme a break.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 21 Jun 2008, 17:17

photobucket now works with FF3.on thursday i was getting a message telling me photobucket doesn't work with FF3 but they were working on the issue.obviously now sorted.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Jun 2008, 17:20

tom2681 wrote:Okay, I've just installed the thing.
It is fast. The improved add-on manager is cool and the Smart Location Bar is awesome.

Give Smart Bookmarks ago. I'm playing with the feature now, it's actually pretty cool. I've posted a link above.

tom2681 wrote:The FF2 "trick" that allowed you to remove the personal bar (or whatever it's called in english) from the bookmarks menu doesn't work anymore

That is annoying. I'd like to get ride of "Bookmark Page" and "Subscribe to This Page" too. They're at the end of all address bar pages anyway. It's called "Bookmark Toolbar" btw.

tom2681 wrote:and memory usage is ridiculous.
93 megabytes for 2 web pages? gimme a break.

For me it's exactly the same. Which still makes it too memory hungry but as FF is so much better than IE I happily live with it. I don't consider it a real problem, lots of software is 50Mb+ Although agreed it needs to be monitored.

For me these are niggles. The fact FF3 is so fast and you can still configure it so much/add extensions means I could never go back to FF2 or other browsers.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 21 Jun 2008, 17:57

Does it matter how much memory it eats, its not as if you will a have tiny 50mb of Ram.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Jun 2008, 14:15

I've been looking at Smart Bookmarks. Man it's a confusing feature. The "10 Most Recent Bookmarks" example in the link above in fact gives me 10 pages from High Def. Digit. WTF!

This feature has lots of potential but I may give up until an Extension comes along that streamlines it.

EDIT: Okay I'm starting to get my head around it. It takes trial and error to get useful ones working.

romerojpg wrote:Does it matter how much memory it eats, its not as if you will a have tiny 50mb of Ram.

Yes it does matter. If every program used as much memory as Firefox you'd soon run out of it. Programs shouldn't use more than 30-40Mb. Especially a web browser, this is not a security tool or defrag software.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Jun 2008, 16:27

The reality of the matter is no, most desktop programs don't take up to 200MB and we live in the days where 2GB RAM is considered minimum requirements. Hypothetical arguments can only go so far.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Jun 2008, 16:38

I've found how to hide the stupid "Bookmarks Toolbar" from the Bookmarks menu (read the last couple of posts):

http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_fo ... ntId=70203

Instructions:

* Add the following text to the end of the userChrome.css file (the italic text):

English:

/* Hide the Bookmarks Toolbar from the Bookmarks menu
*/
menuseparator[id="organizeBookmarksSeparator"],
menu[label="Bookmarks Toolbar"]
{
display: none !important;
}

Français:

menuseparator[id="organizeBookmarksSeparator"],
menu[label="Barre personnelle"]
{
display: none !important;
}

You'll see the first one has comments in English, you can copy/paste this into your French userChrome.css file too.

To find the userChrome.css file:

1. Make sure "Show Hidden file and folders" is selected
2. Navigate to:

Vista: C:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\XXX.default\chrome
2000/XP: C:\Documents and Settings\[User Name]\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\XXX.default\chrome\

3. You'll see a file called "userChrome-example.css", create a copy of this and rename the copy to: userChrome.css
4. Edit userChrome.css in Notepad/Wordpad and add the text above to the end, making sure you have a carriage return/enter gap before the text before it.

Job done! No stupid "Bookmark Toolbar".

It does still appear when you display bookmarks on the right (Ctrl-B) but who uses Bookmarks that way anyway.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 22 Jun 2008, 16:55

Yay!

Brilliant find, mate.

Works like a charm.
I hate seeing useless features laying around.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Jun 2008, 18:18

tom2681 wrote:I hate seeing useless features laying around.

Me too. Particularly when by default Bookmarks in FF3 starts so stupidly far down. I just need to get rid of the Subscribe one now.

I figured most things can be configured in Firefox (Microsoft are you paying attention?) that this is likely too. The link was the third one in Google.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 23 Jun 2008, 03:03

I did not like 3 at all, upgraded from 1.5 and hated the 'awesome bar' and FF3 just seemed so sluggish. I don't know what it is they do to the thing, 15,000 fixes since FF2 apparently but you see so little difference except less speed and horrible new functionality. I'm currently using FF2 which is far better than 3 but not much better than 1.5 to be honest. Annoying problem where saved logins don't appear on sites that fill in the box with "User Name" or similar automatically.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Jun 2008, 12:08

I'm surprised you say that as FF3 loads pages so much quicker. Why do you dislike the Awesome bar? It makes finding pages much quicker.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 23 Jun 2008, 14:35

bradavon wrote: Why do you dislike the Awesome bar? It makes finding pages much quicker.

I bet it's because it keeps displaying his porn bookmarks.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 23 Jun 2008, 17:47

What do I need to backup this time out of FF2 when I go over to FF3? just in case it goes wrong. Bookmarks and what else is able to be copied and reinstalled?

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 23 Jun 2008, 18:52

bradavon wrote:I'm surprised you say that as FF3 loads pages so much quicker. Why do you dislike the Awesome bar? It makes finding pages much quicker.

Not for me it doesn't. When using an address bar I start typing part of the URL I've visited, the awesome bar flashes up all kinds of shit.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 23 Jun 2008, 18:53

romerojpg wrote:What do I need to backup this time out of FF2 when I go over to FF3? just in case it goes wrong. Bookmarks and what else is able to be copied and reinstalled?

key3.db and signons.txt as well for saved logins/passwords. Could just copy your whole profile folder somewhere.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Jun 2008, 19:26

romerojpg wrote:What do I need to backup this time out of FF2 when I go over to FF3? just in case it goes wrong. Bookmarks and what else is able to be copied and reinstalled?

Copy the two folders:

1. C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox
2. Depending on OS:

Vista: C:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla
2000/XP: C:\Documents and Settings\[User Name]\Application Data\Mozilla

And you'll have the entire Firefox install. If you want to go back to FF2, just reinstall it and overwrite the two folders above, and you'll be back to exactly how you are now. You'll need to "Show Hidden file and folders" to see the second folder.

When I install FF on a new PC. I always install using the Setup.exe then copy these folders over. It then gives me an identical setup to I have at home. I tend to delete the original folders first, no overwrite them.

Lourdes wrote:Not for me it doesn't. When using an address bar I start typing part of the URL I've visited, the awesome bar flashes up all kinds of shit.

Weird. If you type BULLETS for example it should give you references to this site.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 31 Jul 2008, 23:30

It's probably not working due to the lack of carriage returns in your file. Have you tried opening it in Wordpad? That can handle carriage returns better than Notepad sometimes.

That said have you copy/pasted it at the end anyway? It may not matter that part of it has no carriage returns. If you still have no joy I can upload my CSS file for you to overwrite. It's just a plain text file.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 31 Jul 2008, 23:35

I figured out the problem and fixed it brad, thanks. I thought I was fast enough to get away with deleting my original post to save anyone the hassle of replying. Guess not!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Mar 2009, 00:48

How to Auto-Export Firefox 3 bookmarks to bookmarks.html -

http://www.lytebyte.com/2008/06/19/how- ... markshtml/

It seems to do this (once enabled) whenever you close Firefox. The advantage of the Firefox 1-2 Bookmarks.html is you can open this in any Web Browser. I upload mine online.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Mar 2009, 20:35

Has anyone been able to come up with any particularly useful Firefox 3 "Smart Bookmarks"?

Smart Bookmarks dynamically update themselves, such as: 10 Most Visited Sites with "bullets" in them. For me, it's one of those features I can see value but cannot find a real world use for.

Restore Firefox 3 Smart Bookmarks: http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/27/rest ... bookmarks/
How to Make Your Own Smart Bookmarks: http://cybernetnews.com/2008/05/07/cybe ... firefox-3/

I do find "tags" useful however. I've add tags to all my forum bookmarks, so now all I have to do is type forum into the search bar and all my forums appear:

http://www.pcmech.com/article/managing- ... with-tags/

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 May 2009, 10:41

LOL, a feud between extension authors.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/04 ... sion_wars/

A protracted war between authors of two of the most popular add-ons for the Firefox browser has prompted calls for changes in the way extensions are written, after one of them admitted he added camouflaged code that disabled features in the other's program.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 May 2009, 18:35

Crazy.

I've never installed Noscript, as I've always thought it blocks first and you have to mess around unblocking later. Adblock Plus just works and never blocks what I don't want it to.