Madam Slender Plum (1967: Lo Wei: Hong Kong)

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True, he looked downright clownish in GOD. But I also just think he was having some trouble with the concept of screenfighting, as many real life fighters have.
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What exactly is Jeet Kune Do supposed to look like? I refer to The Chinese Stuntman where Dan Inosanto and John Ladaski complained that Bruce Li couldn't do Jeet Kune Do, yet he looks far more effective on screen then they do.
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RetroRobot wrote:True, he looked downright clownish in GOD. But I also just think he was having some trouble with the concept of screenfighting, as many real life fighters have.
He isn't very effective in Fist of Unicorn either -the fight between him and Whang In-Sik relies on trick effects.

Jhoon Rhee in When Taekwondo Strikes was pretty good (but awful teeth!), but I think it helped he has Sammo to choreograph. Heck, Sammo makes the dead look like great fighters! ;)
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Jhoon Rhee was a fucking force in WTKDS, and as you rightly pointed out, in large part due to Sammo. I wonder what the BL flicks would have looked like if Sammo did the action for those.
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He did do 'some' for GOD didn't he? Not GOD II though.
Did he, for example, choreograph that fight between himself and Bob Wall in the boxing ring? Must have been an interesting balance, as IMO Sammo was superior to Bob there but obviously he had to lose the fight.
I agree the twist in WOTD is stupid, coming out of nowhere.
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He did everything but the pagoda sequence. But im imagining him doing the "real" BL flicks.... I would most likely have been a bigger Bruce fan if that was a reality.
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Yeah...Sammo might have had Bruce hit some women.

In fact...did Sammo do that fight for New Fist of Fury where Jackie dropkicks a mini-skirted Japanese lass in the chest?

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Well, the treacherous Thai whore from Big Boss could have used some rapid gut punches ala Spooky Encounters ending.
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I still feel we needed to see Nora Miao and Melissa Longo cat-fighting.
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With their tits out, if possible.
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RetroRobot wrote:Well, the treacherous Thai whore from Big Boss could have used some rapid gut punches ala Spooky Encounters ending.
She wasn't that bad a character really.

A poor pro paid to seduce some factory worker.

Didn't deserve a knife in the tit (especially not from the wrong angle).
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She was probably use to getting it from the wrong angle.
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Ivan Drago wrote:I still feel we needed to see Nora Miao and Melissa Longo cat-fighting.
Now that would have made a great scene in the movie. :)
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Anyone think the moral of Bruce Lee films is that kung fu will win you the approval of your frustratingly hot cousin?
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:D
I get that Maria Yi was supposed to be his cousin (I think) in Big Boss, but not sure about FoF, wasnt Nora a fellow student?
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In Way, Nora is Bruce's cousin (I think)

Fist of Fury does seem to the ONLY old-school Hong Kong movie I have ever seen with a full-on kissing scene. It stands out a mile.
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RetroRobot wrote:She was probably use to getting it from the wrong angle.
:lol:
Ivan Drago wrote:Anyone think the moral of Bruce Lee films is that kung fu will win you the approval of your frustratingly hot cousin?
In Chinese culture it's totally OK to pork your cousin.
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Masterofoneinchpunch wrote:"So I have no choice but to stab him."


Do not look at the back cover. First there is a picture that gives away a spoiler to the film (and even more useless trivia, if you look hard at the picture it is different than in the film, it is one of the stills.) Second the synopsis is wrong about the film about several key points including describing this as a murder-mystery in the vein of an old Alfred Hitchcock movie as well as giving away a spoiler and being completely being wrong about what could have potentially be a spoiler. Of course this description is copied on many places on the web including HKFA and HK Cinemagic. ]
I read somewhere that Ric Meyers wrote this synopses. They certainly show his typical habit of failing to get a single thing right about a film, and for desperately trying to name-drop a Hollywood movie into the description.
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Ivan Drago wrote: ... I read somewhere that Ric Meyers wrote this synopses. They certainly show his typical habit of failing to get a single thing right about a film, and for desperately trying to name-drop a Hollywood movie into the description.
Do you have a source for that, because that is hilarious. This film is so easy to Hollywood namedrop because it is a remake of Mildred Pierce. I did not put it the following in my review, but the only close-to-Hitchcock reference I could think of was the stabbing in Dial M for Murder (though not the film in general) and even that is a stretch.

BTW this same film synopsis is used at HKFA (that's a bit embarrassing I think) and several other HK sites. It is one of the worst I have read for the facets I mentioned above.
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I don't have a source to hand I'm afraid. It may have been something Linn told me back in the day.
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I do seem to remember Linn saying that Meyers wrote the blurbs (which aren't a translation of the Chinese ones).
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Remember when Meyers claimed Gordon Liu was up for the Yul Brynner role in The Ultimate Warrior - a film made when Liu was a supporting player in Hong Kong at best, and still had all his hair!
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Ivan Drago wrote:Remember when Meyers claimed Gordon Liu was up for the Yul Brynner role in The Ultimate Warrior - a film made when Liu was a supporting player in Hong Kong at best, and still had all his hair!
Yeah, that was awesome. :lol:
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