Celebrity Big Brother 2007

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 07:51

mark, your vile...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Jan 2007, 11:43

Won't it be tough finding those?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 26 Jan 2007, 16:40

Shen wrote:mark, your vile...

I love you too! 8)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2007, 20:27

grim_tales wrote:Won't it be tough finding those?

Unless they're fake, non-existent.

Shen wrote:mark, your vile...

Why? She's a very attractive women and it's natural for people to want to see attractive people naked.

It's not like Mark asked for hardcore pics.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 20:46

why cant you admire a woman just for her face without having to see her breasts or other naked parts of her?

once in a while it wouldnt hurt to show women some amount of respect, they arent objects.

jmo

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:02

Shen wrote:why cant you admire a woman just for her face without having to see her breasts or other naked parts of her?

Of course but why not both? I bet if there was a naked picture of someone you found attractive you'd click on it. I don't believe for a second you wouldn't click on it.

Agreed an attractive photo of someone in nice clothes can be equally as nice to look at. The two aren't comparable.

Shen wrote:once in a while it wouldnt hurt to show women some amount of respect, they arent objects.

There is a world of difference between wanting to see someone attractive naked and showing disrespect. IMO Playboy for example is very respectful to women.

I do hear this a lot though from people who think seeing someone naked is somehow disrespectful? Like I said we're not talking hard-core porn here.

Anyway like Page 3 it's just a bit of fun. Guys like soft-core porn and those who say they don't are lying. People who dislike it and no offence really just need to get used to it. It's very much male human nature.

To fight human nature is worse IMO, yes there are limits to that statement.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:11

actually no, i dont click naked pictures. why? because i have no inclination to see a naked guy or woman for that matter. yes i find some guys cute but i'm never of the opinion that, wow maybe a full frontal would be nice.

its not disrespectful to see people naked, but every woman you see? i've shut up about many things here that have been said like "oh i'd bone her" or in the nice birds topic, one girl whos not a size zero is too fat, someone who isnt quite normal isnt cute...for me thats lack of respect and downright chauvenistic, but i havent said anything because well, i try to avoid it. but i guess its just cuz your all guys, i dont understand the fascination. i just find alot of the comments here pretty disrespectful about women.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:24

Shen wrote:yes i find some guys cute but i'm never of the opinion that, wow maybe a full frontal would be nice.

So if someone sent you a link of a naked guy you found attractive you'd not click on it?

Shen wrote:its not disrespectful to see people naked, but every woman you see?

Well yes I'd click on a link of a naked Shilpa but that doesn't mean I'm looking for one. It's not about "every" women just if it's there I'd look at it.

Shen wrote:i've shut up about many things here that have been said like "oh i'd bone her"

Woman says similar in night clubs for sure. To want to stop people saying that is wrong IMO.

Shen wrote:or in the nice birds topic, one girl whos not a size zero is too fat, someone who isnt quite normal isnt cute...for me

People are only giving their honest opinion on what they find attractive. Everyone is fussy to an extent. I don't believe anyone would go out with someone 100% based on personality. You need to be physically attracted to them too.

Like I said I've heard worse coming out of women's mouths when they've had a few to drink.

Shen wrote:but i guess its just cuz your all guys, i dont understand the fascination.

They say male sexual appetite is much higher then a females. I don't mean specifically sex when I say that.

Shen wrote:i just find alot of the comments here pretty disrespectful about women.

Fair enough. I happen to disagree.

Women who appear in Page 3 and Playboy are women too, that's what I ultimately find odd about such comments. It's as if they're someone not really women.

The thing is men have been this way since time began, it's not something that it's possible to change. Like I said it's human nature and very much normal for guys.

Sorry I don't want to offend you but am just saying it does work both ways, even if less so from women.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:37

and i dont agree with women treating men like objects either,
to quote Kant: "use people only as ends, never as means"

the new sex culture really bugs the crap out of me, like people cant be seen for who they are, rather if your not this or that then your not to fit in.

and generally i wasnt talking about outside the forum, i was talking about comments here, women (and men) arent sex objects, and shouldnt be treated like that.

also fair enough women want to show their body in playboy and page 3, thats their choice, but why? so they can get exposure? hugh heffman or whatever the old pervs name is, imo is just a sick old man getting off on all the girls trying to get somewhere by flashing their asses and tits...there is no need to whore yourself. though sadly in this day and age thats becoming less and less true.

sorry but i do find the comments here offensive often, a woman isnt there for your fantasies about "boning her" (and to reiterate men arent objects either)

anyway this is just repeating everything i've said, we'll disagree about this, but yeah some of your comments are rude, chauvenistic and offensive.

my last words on the subject becuase we''ll never agree...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:40

the new sex culture really bugs the crap out of me, like people cant be seen for who they are, rather if your not this or that then your not to fit in.

It's only a media thing not real life but yes I see your point.

imo is just a sick old man getting off on all the girls trying to get somewhere by flashing their asses and tits..

I completely agree with you on this one. I'm not saying I wouldn't want to "visit" the Playboy life but I'd never want "his life". He has never experienced a life-time with one person, knowing them inside and out. Neither have I but it's what I'd want.

Who is Kant?

CBB is on, must dash.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:44

immanuel kant a german philospher, he is of the opinion of do things to others that you would want done to you, if you wouldnt like it, then dont do it... also that people arent there to be used for anything, and should be treated as an ends themselves not as a means to the end...

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:53

Shen wrote:why cant you admire a woman just for her face without having to see her breasts or other naked parts of her? once in a while it wouldnt hurt to show women some amount of respect, they arent objects.

You do realise this is Bullets and not the Feminist Forum??

Christ, we're guys having fun. Lighten up goth chick!

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 22:57

shut the fuck up. sorry for having an opinion that god forbid, differs from the norm, and isnt based around jerking off over naked pictures of slutty girls... just becuase you lack respect for people doesnt mean others do.

oh and dont call me "chick" thats my pet hate, im not your object or pet, so dont name me like a bird thanks...next time you'll get your head ripped off.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 26 Jan 2007, 23:17

...and I'm vile????

You've got a nasty tongue and are clearly directing vitriol at me to cover up your own sexuality issues.

You condemn men for enjoying pictures of nude women, despite it being one of the most normal things in the world, as though we should all act like a bunch of celibate priests in your presence.

Are you a frustrated lesbian, perhaps? I only ask as I can't imagine any other reason why you would check out the "Nice Birds" thread and then sit in judgement.

You say you've no friends... now I'm beginning to understand why.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 26 Jan 2007, 23:24

yeah well fuck you ok? your not the most pleseant tounged person on this forum are you?

i have no issues with my sexuality i just dont need to fill my life with pictures of just legal girls to get off on...

and i dont have friends becuase i dont want them.

you wanna know why im pissed off? huh? i've spent the entire day in a graveyard, putting up with some girl going on about how this should be easy for me, its 2 months after my dad died, and im angry and mad and upset and just totally fucked up. oh and its my dads birthday next week, yeh that should be fun, a day in the cemetary. yeah no real suprise huh, i have mental issues going waaaay back that put me off guys leering over girls. so im sooooo sorry for having an opinion.

and i dont think you should act like celibate priests in my presence, why should i? i just think you should show some more respect to women, is that a crime? maybe in your world.

anyway im outta here, there, now you have no problem with me voicing an opinion...

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 26 Jan 2007, 23:54

Anyone watch the evictions? I missed it as I was out.

From what I hear, Jo won't admit that she was involved in bullying. How can someone be so shortsighted?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:10

Jo? Is that Pat Butcher?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:11

Sorry to hear that Shen.

I'm not going to say "it must be tough" or "I understand" as frankly I've no idea how you must be feeling.

I do know it can't be nice though, so again sorry to hear that.

Can I suggest Shen you stay out of the Babes thread. It's really a thread that by design is going to have lots of testosterone and male sexual egos floating around.

And we in the rest of the forum think about our sexual content towards women. I'm not saying we stop as that would be censorship just give it a bit of thought is all.

Shen wrote:immanuel kant a german philospher

Thanks, interesting.

Markgway wrote:You say you've no friends... now I'm beginning to understand why.

Come on Mark that was low.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:13

BiscLimpkit wrote:Anyone watch the evictions? I missed it as I was out.

I watched the Cleo one and missed the Joe one as it was literally only 9 minutes long, they gave Cleo 15 minutes.

BiscLimpkit wrote:From what I hear, Jo won't admit that she was involved in bullying. How can someone be so shortsighted?

She was certainly the least offensive of the 3. Mostly comments behind Shilpa's back.

I don't "think" she said anything in front of her did she? I seem to remember Danielle's comments being worse.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:13

You're right, Brad, it was harsh.

I take it back.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:17

Jo is definitely a bully, in the indirect sense. She gets pleasure from making others feel worse. She admitted this on the show.

Her career's even more over than Jade's. She'll soon realise the consequences of her actions.

Danni though, is in for a real rollocking.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:19

BiscLimpkit wrote:Her career's even more over than Jade's.

She had a career?

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:22

Precisely.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Jan 2007, 00:36

The funny thing is with the exception of Shilpa and ironically Jade (or rather she did anyway) none of them have a career any more. Their careers are all over, at least in the entertainment industry.

BiscLimpkit wrote:Her career's even more over than Jade's.

Probably but then it was over as soon as S Club broke up.

BiscLimpkit wrote:Danni though, is in for a real rollocking.

You reckon? Jo got off so lightly.

I reckon it's died down now. Jade is out and that was a week ago. Things have moved on to an extent.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 Jan 2007, 10:17

From what I've heard Jo has been interrogated by Davina though about the race thing, and she's been trying to wriggle her way out of it, saying her laughter was down to nerves or something, I didn't see it but that can often happen, you get nervous and just come out with something. It doesn't mean she agreed with Jade at all

Though Jo did do some stereotyping.