Fist Of Legend R1 Dimension Vs Dragon Dynasty vs R2FR

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 15 Sep 2008, 14:55

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gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 15 Sep 2008, 14:59

Not a great deal to complain about there, then

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 15 Sep 2008, 15:04

Yeah there is, we want this film on BD!

Dragon Dynasty obviously have good enough quality masters, so I reckon they should start releasing the films on both BD & DVD...

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:02

Well, what do you know? For once it's the HK Vidéo that's too dark.
I prefer it to the contrast-boosted DD of course, but a slight increase in brightness would have been nice.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:07

That Dimension/DD title card is a shocker.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:10

Dimension's colours look the best.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:37

DD looks very good apart from the shocking title card, that looks far worse than HKL slapping their "Crime Story" logo onto the original title card for example.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:44

@Chenlung:
It's not bad, but the contrast-boosting has had some strange effects on skintones.
Look at Jet's girlfriend in the second to last cap. She's completely white on the DD.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 15 Sep 2008, 16:47

tom2681 wrote:@Chenlung:
It's not bad, but the contrast-boosting has had some strange effects on skintones.
Look at Jet's girlfriend in the second to last cap. She's completely white on the DD.

I've been referring to Dimension

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HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 15 Sep 2008, 17:24

tom2681 wrote: Look at Jet's girlfriend in the second to last cap. She's completely white on the DD.

It's weird. HK Video is supposed to look like that

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 15 Sep 2008, 19:12

@Chenlung:
Sorry, my bad.
I thought you were talking about the DD.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Sep 2008, 00:32

DD is probably the best by a whisker.

Dimension has richer colours, but is very soft.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Sep 2008, 00:37

Both the DD and HKV look great. The DD probably wins though.

tom2681 wrote:I prefer it to the contrast-boosted DD of course, but a slight increase in brightness would have been nice.

The HKV looks to have bolstered colours in some shots.

Toge · Post by **Toge** » 16 Sep 2008, 00:56

God I hope a BD release comes soon!

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 16 Sep 2008, 03:41

DD is the most 'politically' correct and better because blacks are deeper than HKVideo (it's got subtitles, even though they're not as good as they should be), anamorphic, less-cropped, less-tampering with the gamma levels and not as blue-ish. However, it's still not black enough and contrast-boosted - the last shot looks artificially brightened too.

However, Dimension has the best blacks and colours (levels infact) all-round (even though it's non-anamorphic and soft) and I can't understand why reviewers (Mark Pollard at KFC) dismiss it.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 16 Sep 2008, 11:19

I thought the Dimension was rather blurry in motion, which isn't something you can always tell from screencaps

Is it true the DD has the frame blurriness that affected Tai Chi Master

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Sep 2008, 23:15

chenlung wrote:However, Dimension has the best blacks

Hmmm......

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 16 Sep 2008, 23:47

Markgway wrote:
chenlung wrote:However, Dimension has the best blacks
Hmmm......

Maybe Brad's quote (in your signature) applies to me

. For some reason, I knew I'd be pulled up on that (why didn't you quote the next few words?!).

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 17 Sep 2008, 00:17

Honestly, the DD looked a lot better than I was expecting. But I agree the Miramax version does have better colors though.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 17 Sep 2008, 00:53

Sometimes I think the members of these forums view these comparison threads with shades or blindfolds on!

The Dimension's colours are clearly over-saturated. The Japanese military did not occupy China looking like The Incredible Hulk! The strongest colours are not always the best! I'd be happy with the colour schemes of all 3 transfers tbh.

The DD transfer really is quite nice, better than I was expecting. It's not nearly as badly contrast boosted as Tom makes out, although the skintones are indeed a little off. It's a touch too bright as well.

Black levels are not stronger on the Dimension, none of the transfers have a problem with their black levels.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:10

I never understood the praises Gil had for Dimension transfers. They're quite ugly with bad artefacting and edge enhancement

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:14

Ivan Drago wrote:I never understood the praises Gil had for Dimension transfers. They're quite ugly with bad artefacting and edge enhancement

They looked decent to me.

Some of them do have edge enhancement, but they often look better than others doing them.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Sep 2008, 13:47

chenlung wrote:Maybe Brad's quote (in your signature) applies to me

Huh?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 17 Sep 2008, 13:48

bradavon wrote:
chenlung wrote:Maybe Brad's quote (in your signature) applies to me
Huh?

Was Mark not accusing me of being racist?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 17 Sep 2008, 16:23

No. I was disagreeing with your assessment that Dimension has better blacks.