Leaving Las Vegas - HD-DVD vs. R1

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Leaving Las Vegas - HD-DVD vs. R1

Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 21 Mar 2008, 12:23

Leaving Las Vegas - HD-DVD (Studio Canal) vs. R1 (MGM)

http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/1.hdfr.jpg
http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/1.r1.jpg

http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/2.hdfr.jpg
http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/2.r1.jpg

http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/3.hdfr.jpg
http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/3.r1.jpg

http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/4.hdfr.jpg
http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/4.r1.jpg

http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/5.hdfr.jpg
http://loveandpop.com/dvd/leaving.las.vegas/5.r1.jpg

The DVD is very old, released in 1998. The results speak for themselves really. Studio Canal's master likely isn't all that recent either. Overall this film probably could do with a remaster, as long as it retains the intentional grainy cinematography.

It's worth noting that the MGM transfer is matted for 1.78:1, whilst the Studio Canal transfer is at 1.66:1. Which is the OAR? Who knows. Also the R1 has a DD5.1 track, whilst the HD-DVD is 4.0 discrete (DTS-HD Master 4.0). Again we have no idea which is the true sound mix.

The R1 is progressive for the most part, although I did find some interlacing. The HD-DVD is encoded with VC-1.

Many thanks to Lourdes for the image hosting.

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Unread post by tom2681 » 21 Mar 2008, 12:34

Both look fairly horrible IMO.
The DVD looks like a poor VCD and the HD-DVD looks like an old VHS. :D
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Unread post by dvdvision » 21 Mar 2008, 13:58

Studiocanal are mocking people with that release. Someone should notify the consumers defence association in France. It's like pissing on people who forked out 25 € for that shit.

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Unread post by grim_tales » 21 Mar 2008, 16:11

The caps (both DVD and HD) look poor IMO, neither look very sharp or detailed.

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Studio Canal HD-DVDs

Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 21 Mar 2008, 16:33

dvdvision wrote:Studiocanal are mocking people with that release. Someone should notify the consumers defence association in France. It's like pissing on people who forked out 25 € for that shit.
Hi David,
Are you not in a position to do so because you're involved in the industry?

Thanks in advance.
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Unread post by Lourdes » 21 Mar 2008, 19:44

An HD-DVD much worse than a DVD, wow.

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Unread post by bradavon » 04 Jun 2008, 01:07

I compared my R1 with Aussie HD-DVD earlier tonight and the HD-DVD is clearly better, the encoding on the R1 is a disaster, with fleck marks and other nasties all over the place.

The HD-DVD is far from a super looking HD-DVD though, it's too soft and looks more like a Semi-Remastered DVD. The audio is only DTS-HD 2.0 compared with the livelier DD5.1 on the R1. I've no idea which is original but the R1's 5.1 doesn't sound fake.

The DTS-HD 2.0 Stereo copes well though.
Lourdes wrote:An HD-DVD much worse than a DVD, wow.
Agreed, it looks that way on the captures but in reality it's better. You cannot really see the encoding problems on these static images.

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Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 04 Jun 2008, 14:19

Fleck marks are encoding problems since when?

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Unread post by bradavon » 04 Jun 2008, 14:22

EvaUnit02 wrote:Fleck marks are encoding problems since when?
Spot the comma ;)

The encoding compression problems are by far the worst aspect of the R1.

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