thelostdragon wrote:Yi-Long wrote:If Israeli's stopped being such dicks, and gave back all the land they stole and stopped harassing the palestinians and limiting their economy etc... maybe they could live peacefully together. but I doubt it.
I recommend a book called "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict" which happens to be written by a Jew. Among a lot of other things he explains how in the Israeli school books of history lesson it says that when the Jews came to settle in the area of Palestine in 1948, it was only a desert with no Arabs living there and that they settled down there without their permission.
LOL, if I was an Israeli kid and someone would tell me the truth (that my history book is lying), I would laugh at him and continue "hating Arabs who are here and bomb us, although they don't even have the right to be here."
Finkelstein compared the Israeli methods of treating the Palestinians with those of the Gestapo. Jewish organisations called him an anti-Semit, whereupon Finkelstein referred to an Israeli commanding officer who said that when escalading densely populated refugee camps one has to take lessons from the methods of the national socialists, for instance in regards to the Warsaw ghetto.
It's also absurd how they call him an anti-Semit although he is a Jew and the son of concentration camp survivors.
Any politician who talks against the politics of Israel will be bashed in the media as anti-Semit, because most of the media is controlled by Jews. Nobody wants to be known as the bad anti-Semit to the public, so almost no politicians talk against Israel's war politics.
LOL, even I, someone a lot of people here would refer to as a foreigner, was called a Nazi by a Jewish kid when I criticised Israel for their treatment of Palestinians. He kept calling me Nazi until he felt my "Nazi"-fist in his face.
But that's the truth. A lot of people in Europe are scared to criticise anything that is even in the slightest Jewish for fear of being put into the nazi pot.
Thanks for the book recommedation, although TBH I doubt I'll ever read it. I'm not a big reader, havent even finished my Kurosawa book I bought almost 2 years orso ago...
I wish I was a huge reader, but between, movies, tv, gaming and the internet, I hardly have the time. And that's with me not evenhaving a job due to my current health-issues! So imagine how little time I would have left if I also had a 40 hours- a day job
Reminds me of that Homer Simpson joke: "It's not easy to juggle a pregnant wife and a troubled child, but somehow I managed to fit in eight hours of TV a day"
Anyway, back on topic: Yeah, it's fucking hilarious that people bitch and moan about the Japanese not having their historybooks straight... and rightly so... but no-one mentions anything about Israeli children being misinformed.
There was a discussion on a Dutch site about this Mickey Jihad issue, and some guy said:'before the jewish came there, it was just a useless sandbox... so I dont mind the jews getting that land and fixing it up and making something pretty out of it.' To which obviously i replied:' so when you dont clean your room for 3 or 4 weeks, you'll be ok if I take it over? Ow... any of your familymembers who might consider protesting at me moving in... I'm going to have to give them a little warning shot to the face, with my bazooka... purely out of selfdefence obviously...'
And yeah, I agree with the point that everytime you stick up for the palestinians, and disagree with the Israelis, someone will bring up the holocaust or play the nazi card, or say I obviously approve of suicide bombers killing innocent civilians etc. Hell... they'll call me a terrorist-friend, or sometime seven a 'terrorist'.
To me, the holocaust isnt related to what is going on NOW with the Palestinians. Just because many jews suffered from the Holocaust, which was wrong, doesnt mean the jews have a right to now steal land and how they treat the palestinian people so badly.
I believe right now, Israel is spreading more hate against the jewish people, than Hitler ever managed to accomplish with his propaganda. Their reality of how they are treating palestinians is causing half the world to hate Israel, and thus the jews.
I not really scared to share my views on stuff. If people wanna call me a 'nazi' or a terrorist-friend, or whatever, so be it. The smarter people will actually get into a debate about the issue. I pretty much stand by my opinions, but that doesnt mean I approve of suicide bombers etc... (but I do understand what motivates them to do such a horrible crime)
If someone takes away everything I have and love... I'm pretty sure I would want revenge as well. Even if it means giving my own life, and even if it means hurting not the ones directly responsible, but maybe their loved ones. I'm pretty sure my heart would be so full of dark hatred and pain, that I would just not care anymore about THEM. 'They dont seem to care about my loss either, do they!?'
Then there's a politician (?) on TV talking, the little girl gets a doll from a shop.
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