The Terminator: R1 SE vs UK R2 SE vs UK R2 UE vs HK R3 SE
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The Terminator: R1 SE vs UK R2 SE vs UK R2 UE vs HK R3 SE
Bradavon - Disclaimer: Please be aware the R1 SE and UK R2 SE were added by Mark, the HK R2 SE Eva and UK R2 UE Bradavon.
This is mentioned because the UK R2 SE and UK R2 UE have been compared by myself on the exact same equipment and the UK R2 UE is definitely not less sharp as these captures imply. I suspect this is because three different programs were used (PowerDVD, WinDVD and Media Player Classic).
Please use it only as a guide and in particular to notice the colour change in the first capture on the UK R2 releases.
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
This is mentioned because the UK R2 SE and UK R2 UE have been compared by myself on the exact same equipment and the UK R2 UE is definitely not less sharp as these captures imply. I suspect this is because three different programs were used (PowerDVD, WinDVD and Media Player Classic).
Please use it only as a guide and in particular to notice the colour change in the first capture on the UK R2 releases.
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
R1
R2
R2 UE
R3:
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Agreed. Minutely sharper (you can almost read the name on Sarah's tag on the R1) and I think the blue tone on the first cap is correct.bradavon wrote:Thanks. I'd give it to the R1.
I had the R2 first. Am now selling it.I'm surprised you bought the R2.
Not quite. There's no R1 2-disc. It's a DVD-18.To confirm it's: UK R2 2 Disc SE vs. R1 2 Disc SE
Umm. Forgot the times. But all caps take place in the first 15 mins or so. Should be easy to find.Right? Let me know the times and I'll add the UK R2 2 Disc UE captures.
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The blue tone is indeed correct. I've seen this film a million times so I know how I it is supposed to look.Markgway wrote:Agreed. Minutely sharper (you can almost read the name on Sarah's tag on the R1) and I think the blue tone on the first cap is correct.
I'm pretty sure its a DVD-14. Dual layer for the film side & single layer for the extras side.Markgway wrote:Not quite. There's no R1 2-disc. It's a DVD-18.
And the best thing about the R1 version: ORIGINAL MONO! That's the reason I won't be upgrading to the Blu-Ray version - it only features the 5.1 remixed track with new foley effects - yuk!
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DVD-18 = A DVD-9 on either sidegrim_tales wrote:Mark when you say DVD-18 you mean the double sided platter type of disc?
DVD-15 = DVD-9 on 1 side and DVD-5 on the other
I will (eventually). 5.1 Surround lovelinessIronMonkey wrote:And the best thing about the R1 version: ORIGINAL MONO! That's the reason I won't be upgrading to the Blu-Ray version - it only features the 5.1 remixed track with new foley effects - yuk!
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Did you expect anything else? . It's a great remix.
The mix even though it's Mono lends itself well to 5.1. You may not personally like the result but that much is true. Just because it's a remix it doesn't make it immediately bad, although as I always say shame on MGM non-R1/R3 for not including Mono.
It's no Tai Chi Master (speech from all speakers) or Withnail and I (Surrounds so loud you can barely hear the actors) fuck up!
I think you're all nuts for opting for Mono. The films full of gunfire and explosions, they've done a decent mix (that one obviously IMO).
I guess I must be lucky I can't notice the new foley. It's a shame you guys aren't as special as me
Anyway we've been hear before get over yourself guys .
The mix even though it's Mono lends itself well to 5.1. You may not personally like the result but that much is true. Just because it's a remix it doesn't make it immediately bad, although as I always say shame on MGM non-R1/R3 for not including Mono.
It's no Tai Chi Master (speech from all speakers) or Withnail and I (Surrounds so loud you can barely hear the actors) fuck up!
I think you're all nuts for opting for Mono. The films full of gunfire and explosions, they've done a decent mix (that one obviously IMO).
I guess I must be lucky I can't notice the new foley. It's a shame you guys aren't as special as me
Anyway we've been hear before get over yourself guys .
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In my insert booklet, for some reason most of the chapter title listings are mostly in Latin bizarrely. Does anybody else suffer from this?
You don't a English mono track to compare it to, only random Euro language tracks that were down-mixed from the 5.1.bradavon wrote:I guess I must be lucky I can't notice the new foley. It's a shame you guys aren't as special as me
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I'll try and decipher what you're waffling about. I know we've been here before . I compared the English 5.1 to non-English (I forget which language) Mono and foley wise it sounded identical.EvaUnit02 wrote:You don't a English mono track to compare it to, only random Euro language tracks that were down-mixed from the 5.1.
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AFAIK the only publisher that has been putting original mono onto their HD releases has been Warner - eg Casablanca, The Searchers. Universal's combo of Animal House has original mono on the DVD side, but not on the HD (the 5.1 mix is so inactive that it may as well be mono though).
Speaking of Animal House - apparently when it saw HD remastering in 2003, director John Landis thought that it looked too good so they reportedly decreased the quality of the master.
Speaking of Animal House - apparently when it saw HD remastering in 2003, director John Landis thought that it looked too good so they reportedly decreased the quality of the master.