My Impression of Vista

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2007, 01:10

First Vista Service Pack Due Second Half of 2007: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/25/221232

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Feb 2007, 19:42

There's a very in-depth review of Vista here. I've read bits of it, it's interesting: http://www.computerworld.com/action/art ... Id=9004916

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Feb 2007, 21:59

I've just found this excellent article on Vista's Firewall and general security enhancements, it concentrates on the Vista Firewall though. It's definitely worth a read:

"This is an excruciating task, as almost every program today requires some type of Internet access.

After completing these above steps, I was finally able to get Firefox back online again. It’s obvious that it is next to impossible to do this for every application you want to work with under the firewall’s “block outbound mode”, so it’s not advisable to ever select this highly restrictive option."

Here's the article, it is just what I was looking for:

http://www.agnitum.com/news/securityins ... anuary2007

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 06 Mar 2007, 12:45

we just got vista on our new pc (our old one broke) so far i dont like it. i havent had much chance to play with it yet but from the troubles mum has run into, i think i prefer xp. i think when selling pc's they should give you a choice iof you want vista or not, personally, i'd rather have xp for now.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Mar 2007, 17:42

Well once you get uised to it I am sure it is better, far better. But it takes a long time to get used to sometjhing your 100% acustomed to.

We got a Laptop the other day with Vista on it, its good for many things and pants for others, will just take time to get used to things and change it all to the way we want it, and obviously get updates to fix all the crap broken stuff thats incompatible with Vista

I cannot even get online with Vista

as the drivers for my Broadband modem are not suported, so I have had to get a bloody wireless setup, costing me cash, all becuase Vista and other companies dont pull their fingers out with patches

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 06 Mar 2007, 19:01

yeah thats the problem we are finding, programs and games we use regularly dont work with vista, its a pain in the ass, and right now we'd really rather prefer to use XP but its not offered on this pc, so it relaly sucks.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Mar 2007, 19:16

Thing is people keep saying everything works, but you have to go looking for drivers and patches to get them working, far to much hard work and some things (Like my broadband modem) will never work until they make them work, which could be still many months away.

I am still waiting a few months till I get a new PC and Vista, dont want the hastle

just hope my PC keeps running until then.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 06 Mar 2007, 21:40

There is still nothing that I've heard about Vista that makes me excited about it, or makes me want to upgrade from XP. I think XP is an absolutely excellent OS, have pretty much never encountered problems with it...

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 06 Mar 2007, 21:49

yeah i really didnt want vista either, i asked instore if there was an xp alternative, but it seems not. which is stupid, its not even a perfected OS so thats like a really smart move to phase out XP when the new OS sucks big time

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Mar 2007, 23:25

You can strip off Vista and load in XP, but again its a lot of hasstle for most people.

The one BIG thing that I hated about Vista, was I installed one game, within 5 minutes I got the dreaded BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH! I thought this eveil screen was a thing of the past

I hate seeing it on XP, but to see it still on Vista is an insult, I thought they had improved stability and all that crap, bollocks they have.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 06 Mar 2007, 23:38

I saw the blue screen on windows 98 all the time, but cant really recall seeing it on XP EVER. And I have ALOT of programs.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Mar 2007, 23:42

I get the Blue Screen on XP a lot, used to get it daily, not so much latley. Ussually driver issues, graphics card or the PC crashes so bad the Blue Screne doesnt come up even as it shuts power off so quickly

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 07 Mar 2007, 00:08

romerojpg wrote:I get the Blue Screen on XP a lot, used to get it daily, not so much latley. Ussually driver issues, graphics card or the PC crashes so bad the Blue Screne doesnt come up even as it shuts power off so quickly

Do you have a legal copy of XP, or illegal?

I've had 2 or 3 computers with XP over the last 5 years orso...
I've had tons of different programs on them. Yet never had any real problems with XP.

Windows 98 was a nightmare though...

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 07 Mar 2007, 10:52

On my experience, Windows 98 SE was a great product, lots of bug fixed, and it didn't crash that much. Windows ME on another hand, very very crap product, always got phone calls about this O/S on the Tech Support line. Don't know what Microsoft was thinking when they released that. Windows XP hardly crashes for me, but I like to keep all the patches up to date. XP and Windows 2000 are great operating system.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 07 Mar 2007, 17:21

Yup my XP is legal, but my PC I guess is just unstable, has been since day one sadly

when I get a new one I hope to god its perfect, as no way I can be that unlucky yet again!

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 07 Mar 2007, 19:21

I found that the stability of XP depended on the quality of the parts and of the build. Loads of cheapo base units have problems with it and companies that use decent components and build 'em properly don't. This will, no doubt, continue with machines which run Vista.
As ever, you get what you pay for.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 07 Mar 2007, 19:29

I paid a fortune £1600 from a multi award winning company MESH, the PC I bought won many awards too and was reviwed as the best in its price band, yet it still is problem prone and MESH are the scum of the earth and I hope they go bust and sack everyone!

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 07 Mar 2007, 19:34

£1600 for a MESH?! You, sir, were duped.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 07 Mar 2007, 20:18

Not at all, it was the most powerful you could get at that time for that cash, worked out a little more than building it myself (was quoted £1300, but stuff that nop way I build it myself).

If it had worked and the customer serive was good to get it fixed! its still broken now 4 years later

The new PC I am getting will cost a similar amount, but this time I will pick parts etc.. and get the most powerful again, only this time not from MESH and at least I know lots more than when I got my 1st PC, but still no intention of building one at all.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 08 Mar 2007, 01:11

Romero, you should most definately get some sort of revenge on those bastards. Just to get even. I'm sure there's stuff you can think of to both dupe them and not get caught.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 08 Mar 2007, 17:38

They did have a freepost address, and I could have sent them hundreds of bricks in the post and it would have cost them a fortune

but they dont have one anymore, shame

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 Mar 2007, 10:17

I'm currently running Vista Business in dual-boot with XP Pro, everything seems to be running fine thus far. Aero looks nice.

I might upgrade to Vista Ultimate at a later date, although it sounds like a waste of time TBH. Like I need crap like Media Center.

Unrealnils · Post by **Unrealnils** » 16 Mar 2007, 13:57

I'll stick with windows xp (mce edition) for now.

Been stable as hell on my new pc i think in about 5 months not 1 single blue screen but then i do have a legit version of xp running on a top end machine

Will go vista maybe end of hte year next

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 16 Mar 2007, 17:53

From reading more and more about Vista, its still not compatible or even near as good as XP was. Esspecially with games, if you want the best games running the best they can, Vista is shit still and still doesnt look to be getting even close to XP

I havent got a clue what to do as I want a very powerful new PC, but if I get Vista its going to have massive problems with games with all the setting up high as drivers for Vista are still a load of shit it seems

that doesnt even start with the whole direct X10 card problems, doesnt seem a good time to get a new PC at all, but I NEED ONE NOW!!!

After summer these problems may have got a bit better, but hell Vista isnt exactly perfect for anyone who wants to push games to the limit it seems. Grrr

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 16 Mar 2007, 18:09

Why not just build a PC with Windows XP now and in the future when the problems with Vista have settled buy a copy of that & wipe the PC & do a clean install of Vista?